Friday 28 November 2008 1.28am
I can only agree with much of your comments.While I am sure Living Streets have a good agenda,and their comments about 20mph zones are true, Grange Road
is an excellent example of where the 20mph zone is a complete farce. Southwark are afraid of TFL, won't put in sufficient humps to slow vehicles, and farcically put in a tiny speed activated sharp bend sign as part of the 20mph zone.
Chuck in some railings and build a few dropped kerbs, and we have a street where vehicles are given free reign, add to that umpteen skip lorries rat running to Surrey Canal Road, and you might as well call it a red Route, it has 24/7 restrictions anyway,it is a Bus Priority Route.
Meanwhile cyclists duck and dive from overtaking vehicles turning in early to avoid the road furniture.
Then they rip out the 20mph entry signs on the junction with Tower Bridge Road
, and, as you suggest, I wish they'd rip up their speed humps and install some 30mph cameras, Jeremy does need to climb out into the real world, and take on the real challenge, deliver 20mph on the major A roads in Southwark, that would be a real contribution to Road safety in Southwark, and then move on to Red Routes in the next edition of the road safety plan.
If pressed, I'm sure vehicle speeds on Borough High Street
and Duke Street Hill
are lower than Grange Road
, are casualty figures linked to pedestrian/vehicle density rather than speed?, and any comments about those streets being dominated by fast moving vehicles are far from the truth, and pedalling on economic gloom is somewhat off topic for such a serious issue.
The Network Manager for Roads in Southwark, an Andrew Downes has stated "main purpose is to provide access to the TLRN for vehicles in the area" about Grange Road
, surely if Living Streets want to address the Red Route Issues then they need to address the feeder roads first.
Jeremy, if you wish your organisation to contribute to the north of the borough, then I, and am sure, from his comments, that Jerry would welcome the same, then please come and look at the area from the pavement, not a map, the issues here are quite distant from the streets of Dulwich, I'm sure you will be very welcome, although the time for 20 mph on Red Routes may well not have arrived yet.