Hope SE1 doesn't come all Royston Vasey

I think most people would agree that development needs to be sustainable. I don't agree with Gavin, price tags too high for those living near them isn't a win win situation. We need a mixture, so new people can move in, but those who live there can also stay, in good quality accommodation.

This isn't an SE1 problem of course, I'm from a village in yorkshire that everyone wanted to live in, because the pit was outside the village, instead of in it like with most villages, my grand parents didn't become £10 poms because they got offered a council house there - what's important to you is very locally defined!

I'm very frustrated that S106 is a bit of a joke (not because of Southwark but because of legislation) and doesn't really provide local housing for people. With all the development that we've had, we should have a whole load of social housing, and not just a payment towards some new pavement.

I wasn't born in SE1, but my children were, and they have never lived anywhere else. Before moving to SE1 almost 11 years ago, I lived in North- and mostly worked in Central London, so I know that neck of the woods quite well. Now, I am lucky enough to work for a local business, as does the missus. I cycle or walk to work and I have to say, SE1 and surrounding areas are like nowhere else in London. I still discover new locations, buildings, streets etc that are absolutely beautiful and, in my eyes at least, unique. I love the whole history of SE1, especially early 19th century up to the late 70's. As a non native, I guess sometimes you see things in a different light or from a different angle. Oh, and I support West Ham.

EW I was taking to you until the West Ham bit. That just tiped the scales against you. Well maybe you will get relegated and we get promoted and can play each other next year.

I think you have misunderstood me, Zoe; I live in a council flat and have done my whole life. I was born in Guy's Hospital and have lived in the area my whole life.

My point wasn't about property prices but rather about the positive change that (tasteful) development/new people bring to all living in the area.

Sorry Gavin, and I agree that change can be very positive, and I really like things like the new pavements that have been fitted, it can really make a street look nicer.

There is clearly no right answer, a cafe culture seems lovely until you realise that the UK equivalent of a cafe culture is a loud pub where everyone stands in the street drinking - lol.

Here's a not very profound analogy. Some people, having chosen a partner, immediately set about trying to change him or her into someone different. Others fall in love with someone as they are, but take pleasure in their subsequent development or improvement. The second scenario usually makes for the happier/ healthier relationship.

I don't doubt that some people wo move to SE1 want to edit out part of what they find here. But many of us love and learn from its diversity. Some were drawn here because of it.

Despite realse1's assertions, I don't see much evidence that the majority of non-native se1-ers contributing to this site dislike SE1 as it is. I think there's ample evidence, though, of two other things. First, that most contributors would prefer courtesy to aggression. Secondly that repeated aggression can often breed aggression in response.
Seems to me that debate is infinitely happier and healthier without it.

Wise words aoibhneas. We all like to feel empowered to contribute to and shape the environment in which we live, if we so choose.

Well said aoibhneas,

all the rudeness and name calling is uncalled for and doesn't contribute anything to the debate.

SE1 is a great place and as far as I'm concerned everyone is welcome regardless of where they come from, what kind of place they live in etc.