Accident on Weston St

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Paul Tuesday 30 March 2010 10.15pm
This evening c.19H. London Concrete Truck (Cement Mixer type) going West on Southwark Street outside Menier Theatre, driver chatting on his mobile 'phone ... it was in his right hand against his ear.
Jan the old one Tuesday 20 April 2010 11.44am
Just read about Network Rail taking off 2000 lorries from roads and wait for it Using Barges! see our lovely old Thames still has it's uses apart from tourist trips.. While all their works are going ahead, great news at least for any future young cyclists.
Guy's street Tuesday 20 April 2010 11.24pm
Mutton wrote:

If we just use blanket labels of 'cyclist' and 'driver', there is a lot of fault on both sides. But it isn't fair to treat everybody the same and tar them with these stereotypes. We are dealing with individuals. The problem isn't cyclists. The problem isn't drivers of motor vehicles. There are unbelievably responsible and courteous people in each of these groups. The real problem is that some individuals are just plain irresponsible, careless and dangerous. They can be in either group. They could even be in both of these groups.

The only real way to improve safety for pedestrians, cyclists and drivers would be to get people like this off the roads completely- be them drivers of motor vehicles *or* cyclists.

You've forgotten one key group in all of this - the pedestrians. Many pedestrians (a far higher percentage than that of drivers or cyclists in my eyes) are irresponsible and careless. You criticise a cyclist for listening to headphones, but what about those on foot who walk into a cycle lane, or into the road, unable to hear the cyclist ringing their bell? It happens to me on a daily basis, yet it's rare I ever see a cyclist speed through a red light - most will slow right down and use their judgement as to whether or not to proceed.

I cycle, and I walk, and I drive. I can appreciate all 3 views, and as you say, it is the careless individuals, not their mode of transport, that is the problem, but lets not forget that those on foot are quite often also careless and blissfully unaware of their own responsibility to themselves and others.

Sorry for taking this slightly off topic.
Gwynaethva Wednesday 21 April 2010 9.20am
Guy's street wrote:

You've forgotten one key group in all of this - the pedestrians. Many pedestrians (a far higher percentage than that of drivers or cyclists in my eyes) are irresponsible and careless. You criticise a cyclist for listening to headphones, but what about those on foot who walk into a cycle lane, or into the road, unable to hear the cyclist ringing their bell? It happens to me on a daily basis, yet it's rare I ever see a cyclist speed through a red light - most will slow right down and use their judgement as to whether or not to proceed.

I cycle, and I walk, and I drive. I can appreciate all 3 views, and as you say, it is the careless individuals, not their mode of transport, that is the problem, but lets not forget that those on foot are quite often also careless and blissfully unaware of their own responsibility to themselves and others.

Sorry for taking this slightly off topic.

Hear hear. Well put - from another pedestrian/ cyclist/ driver.
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