Bricklayer's Arms Flyover: Gone. Playing fields? Thoughts?

It's only about 15 feet wide isn't straight and slopes up then back down, so exactly what kind of playing field would this oooh so clever councillor make ??? !!!

Just a thought but how many of these people who want a playing field in the sky actually originally come from this area.
Speaking to someone the other day who complained about the traffic the helicopter noise even people noisily walking down the street late at night, she had two young children who woke up at night because of all the noise. Turned out she moved to London after meeting her husband at uni, she was from the outskirts of Reading he was from Tottenham and she just can't get used to all the dirt and noise, he sleeps soundly though, he is used to city life and she isn't.
Thing is the place we live is the biggest city in this country and we have millions of people commute from the outskirts of London and further and many streets have been cut out of the equation for drivers forcing traffic onto the main roads, taking the flyover away would just make the problem worse, and cause the horrendous jams we had when they reinforced it the other year. The commuters work here and are entitled to drive if they so wish, public transport can't cope as it is so imagine if every driver suddenly tried to take a train (loool) total chaos.

Please, this is not a village, it was 300 years ago and if you want total silence then move to the country you will be some much happier and those of us who love London for the great city it is can live in peace from the moaning drones who want to change us back 300 years to village times.

The idea is that with a different junction design, it could use less space - freeing up room for the school to expand.

Something like this

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/ms?msid=201038052736420379110.0004bf649983c8bd002c9&msa=0&ll=51.494611,-0.086453&spn=0.003754,0.009141

I don't think anyone on the 'pull it down' side has focused the noise - its the physical separation that the flyover particularly causes, and the space the junction wastes, that irks - all for the benefit of one extra lane of one way traffic.

Of course you need to balence the needs of the site, but I'm sure those needs have changed since the 19070s. My attitude is, is this the best junction for the area now? I doubt that it is.

Exactly -- with the beast removed, more surface space will be freed up to allow traffic to flow even more smoothly, and alterations can be made so that buses coming from TBR to NKR don't get stuck in horrible traffic. It's a chance to do things right.

And, Jan, I agree that it's sad that a great community was lost, but a great community can be reborn again when that massive hunk of concrete is removed from the middle of the road.

It's a win-win-win, but right now we have lose-lose-lose.

jamesup wrote:

Of course you need to balence the needs of the site, but I'm sure those needs have changed since the 19070s. My attitude is, is this the best junction for the area now? I doubt that it is.

Surely you accept that there's more road traffic now than in the 1970s.

The data I've seen states that in 1971 more than 50% of people commuting into central London did so by car, that now stands at less than 30%.

Car ownership in London is lower today than it was in the mid 1990s.

Obviously the CC changes the role of the Inner Ring Road, so broad trends might not be directly repeated - I've not seen any data on A2 traffic over that time span, you got it?

I'd bet anyone a penny to a pound that the amount of cars in the 30% now far outnumbers the 50% in 1971.

What's the "you got it" about?

I was asking if you had/had seen any data on A2 traffic over that time span.

Oh apologies,no I haven't.

haha - I see, you were imagining me in some sort of Jerry Springer like outburst? :) Serves me right for not saying it properly i.e. 'Do you have it?'