Bakerloo Line Extension

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Thursday 29 January 2015 3.25pm
Cold and hard or just maybe the future's bright FP and it's all pink and fluffy and got spots on too. Maybe they're rosettes.Red ones.

Down in Bromley at the very end of the line it's the Tory Blues who are dead against the Hayes extension of the Bakerloo:

"Lewisham Labour politicians have accused Bromley Council of being "narrow-minded nimbys" over opposition to a Bakerloo Line extension.

This astonishing attack comes after News Shopper published Tory-run Bromley's response to a Transport for London (TfL) consultation over plans for a Bakerloo extension through Catford to Hayes.

Because this would see the loss of direct services to London Bridge, Bromley says the Hayes plan is "unacceptable" and says it could only support an extension via New Beckenham to Bromley South, preferring DLR and Tramlink links in the borough.

Figures from the conultation showed 73 per cent of Bromley respondents backed the idea of an extension.."



How about that.

Just how about that.
Wednesday 11 February 2015 9.10am
What they were saying about the Bakerloo line extension in 1988



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Thursday 12 February 2015 12.24am
Wow - thanks for this James - how stupid and short-sighted that was not, at the very least, to safeguard a corridor of what was ex-railway lands for the Bakerloo Extension. This was two years after the abolition of the GLC - there was just no central governance or strategic planning in London during that era.

Now they are going to have to tunnel it all at great expense.

Interesting that back in 1988 Labour (i.e Harriet Harman) were clearly behind this route option which is effectively the Old Kent Road alignment as opposed to heading down to Camberwell....
Sunday 15 February 2015 5.00pm
Well Well

Very Well Camberwell

The are lots and lotsa options and all the parties have got their favourite fix for this the most troublesome of tube extensions. In December and hot on the heels of Labours announcement to go with Old Kent Road option (or not) Caroline Pidgeon Leader of the Liberal Democrat London Assembly Group said:

"A two branch extension of the Bakerloo Line is vital for south east London" - 10 December 2014

Caroline wants to a see a two branch extension incorporating Camberwell on 2nd southern branch or perhaps a southern loop. Now to some loopy thinking is what being a politician is all about, but to me it's still all plain crazy.

With all things to all people and Caroline would have you believe Camberwell is suddenly back in the game.

This political potato has yet to roast a while. Whilst the jury is out the money will be counted and that at the end of the day is all that matters. Loopy thinking or fuzzy logic aside the scheme that will be chosen will be the one that affords Boris and his mates their best return on their investment, and lets not forget Boris has at his disposal simply acres and hectares of derelict public land at his beck and call.

Most of Boris's Booty is located to the east and south east of the capital and is just ripe for a tube train extension a shopping centre or commercial development or five.

Just this week the "China Development" a development of several hectares of prime London expublic land was signed into action with completion around 2017. A fine example of "Boris Thinking For London" at it's most dazzling and beguiling.

Back to the Bakerloo and once all the proposals, the sane and the insane, are exposed to the flames of Boris's Inferno of Vanities all save one are destined to shrivel up and be no more.

If only Boris's desire to foist his own particular brand of carpet bagging political chicanery upon an unsuspecting British nation would so do too. Then we would all be in a much happier place.

Call me an old cynic but Boris is no fool and will have his way with the Bakerloo whatever the pundits and politicos must say.


Fare well. Fare thee well.

Fayre thee well Camberwell.
Tuesday 24 February 2015 8.50am
If anyone really wants to see what Caroline is banging on about here's a map:
http://s23.postimg.org/up3gognyj/2_branch_extension.jpg

Me I'd rather put the washing on and make a cup of tea.
Sunday 22 March 2015 12.53pm
From Sir Peter Hendy's latest report to the TfL board:

"We ran a consultation between September and December 2014 on the principle of extending the Bakerloo line to the south and will publish a full report at the end of March.

"Work is under way to update key elements of the costs, refresh the business case, and investigate a number of alternative route options suggested via the consultation.

"Subject to feasibility, funding and powers, an extension could be delivered by 2030."

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Sunday 22 March 2015 7.20pm
I await with interest the TfL report - hopefully James, you can publish the key points here or as a news item.

Key questions for SE1, will be where TfL are planning to locate the stations / vent shafts and where they are actually going to start tunnelling from the Elephant and Castle.

Here is a fasincating map which shows that the siding tunnels from the E&C station actually ran along New Kent Road before an access shaft and new siding tunnels facing towards Walworth Road / Camberwell were constructed in the 1930s (now under the Shopping Centre). That, in itself, is fascinating because it shows that they actually did some extension work in the 1930s.
Monday 23 March 2015 10.16am
Aside from the possible route, let's speculate on where big holes in the ground might be that will blight open space for a toddlerhood.... (1) Elephant and Castle Roundabout / a.k.a Elephant Square - it's already discretely pencilled in as a construction compound until mid 2020s, why not for another few years (2) Elephant Park - the only bit of the now cleared Heygate Estate left, it's earmarked as a public space from 2016, but is surely vulnerable. (3) Brick Layers Arm Roundabout... except there's talk about building on that now, hopefully not before it could become what's probably the least controversial local hole near SE1.
Monday 23 March 2015 8.53pm
My personal view is that the Shopping Centre site would be by far the most logical place to begin the TBM drive.

It's a really nasty building - and it's going to go at some point in any case - plus of course nobody lives there (I think).

It's also perfectly sited to extend the existing Bakerloo overrun / siding tunnels - which are already under the shopping centre.

The tube entrance was never properly integrated in to the shopping centre and this was one of the biggest failures of the 1960s redevelopment.

There could be a chance here to create a proper tube / rail / shopping centre interchange once and for all.
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