Friday 21 March 2014 12.07am
[quote Luke]So aggressive, Richard, why?
Because the initiative is yet another example of this amazing area with such great potential being clumsily cut up by well meaning people who don't invest some time in very basic engagement. (Yes you're in the same sin bin as TfL)
Because it's such a comically inept gesture flattered with consideration by a famously inept cabinet that it deserves to be ridiculed in the hope it'll jolt its contributors out of complacency.
It's really not complicated. Ask anyone on the street to draw a wobbly line around the Elephant and Castle and they'll include something with the roundabout / shopping centre / tube stations / pub at the centre. It's baffling that 'local people' would choose to do something very different.
Bermondsey's boundaries are not clear to me, but the challenge during them is obviously more difficult. The tube station in Bermondsey is much less helpful than at the Elephant for pin pointing a central location because it's about 100 years younger and is also unhelpfully far from the other famous place bearing that name, Bermondsey Street
. Controversy over borders elsewhere doesn't excuse a proposal that so obviously chops up a neighbourhood that has a so much more coherent centre.
Of the various issues facing the Elephant, another forum isn't something that so fires me up I'd want to initiate its creation. I'd gladly support and contribute to one if it existed and as a starting point reflected a spatial and social geography I identified with as my locality.
As I understand it from off line conversations some within the proposed forum were keener for it to focus on Walworth. Given the increasing civic pride of the Walworth area what with the new heritage society and the new Walworth civic Square, perhaps that's a better start for this forum. Retreat a bit into an area that's easier to define and has much going for it, and avoid the challenge of including an area that appears not to be understood very well.