Bermondsey St. heritage at risk

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Thursday 2 November 2017 11.25am
There is a disturbing application to demolish part of one of the few Victorian warehouses on Bermondsey Street to create a massive and ugly penthouse flat directly over the park and tennis courts.

The Victorian Society have strongly objected to development of this flat on the basis of the damage it will cause to the courtyard of the old cork warehouse, that it will lead to the loss of the original hipped roof of the warehouse and the fact it will ruin the composition of the building. It is the old warehouse viewed when you enter Tanner Street park from the Tower Bridge road/Tanner Street side and viewed from the Tanner Street tennis Courts.

A number of old buildings have been destroyed recently in Borough and Bermondsey to the objection of locals in the area where the councillors havenít picked up the issue. If you want to object and help these buildings be preserved, the application is 17/AP/3746.

https://planning.southwark.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=summary&keyVal=_STHWR_DCAPR_9575103
Thursday 2 November 2017 12.40pm
Bigger worry is the massive development at HATCHERS MEWS infront - if that goes ahead you wouldn't end up seeing any of that warehouse at all and probably lose half the trees in the park..

Will totally transform the area around the park forever..

Details here:

https://planning.southwark.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=summary&keyVal=_STHWR_DCAPR_9575288
Thursday 2 November 2017 2.03pm
The proposed penthouse at Rankin House is over 2,500 Square feet but doesn't have any regard for the Victorian warehouse is sits upon. A newly built roof top extension on Bell yard mews of 1,950 Square feet is on the market at the moment for £2.9 Million so this proposal will clearly be hugely valuable but at the expense of building it sits upon.

However the Bell yard mews penthouse was on a modern building not created by damaging a Victorian warehouse and not created when conservation bodies have urged that the changes not be made as they will damage the building. This is what's proposed.



You can see on Southwark's website more plans showing its impact.
Tuesday 16 January 2018 12.23pm
This is going to be considered by a planning sub-committee on 23 January. Papers:

http://moderngov.southwark.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?MId=5697

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Tuesday 16 January 2018 4.39pm
Oh my. Nimbies competing with each other over what proposal is more worthy of forum readers attention.
Tuesday 16 January 2018 4.57pm
I'd say that the Bermondsey Street heritage - whatever that actually is - was lost years back. People who talk about "heritage" clearly have no idea what stood on Tanner Street, the height of the buildings/warehouses that stood there, or indeed what stood on the open space prior to its enlargement. In heritage terms, Bermondsey Street and its immediate surroundings were dark and dismal places. To suggest, therefore, that its heritage is at risk is a bit disingenuous. Perhaps we can be enlightened?

This is a classic case of nimbyism. The net effect of reading this thread is that I have gone to the Southwark planning website to register my support for the proposal.
Tuesday 16 January 2018 6.01pm
Gavin Smith wrote:
I'd say that the Bermondsey Street heritage - whatever that actually is - was lost years back. People who talk about "heritage" clearly have no idea what stood on Tanner Street, the height of the buildings/warehouses that stood there, or indeed what stood on the open space prior to its enlargement. In heritage terms, Bermondsey Street and its immediate surroundings were dark and dismal places. To suggest, therefore, that its heritage is at risk is a bit disingenuous. Perhaps we can be enlightened?
This is a classic case of nimbyism. The net effect of reading this thread is that I have gone to the Southwark planning website to register my support for the proposal.

Couldn't agree with you more Gavin. When I first moved to the area, 20 years ago, Bermondsay Street was a very different place, and not in a good way.
Tuesday 16 January 2018 6.25pm
Hurrah!

Some may, of course, say that Bermondsey street has not changed in a good way too. I jokingly refer to it as a street where you can buy lots of things you want, but nothing you actually need. Giddy Grocer being the latest vendor with an unwritten motto of never knowingly underpriced.

Sadly, TBR is heading the same way now.
Wednesday 17 January 2018 9.54am
boroughbloke wrote:
Hurrah!
Some may, of course, say that Bermondsey street has not changed in a good way too. I jokingly refer to it as a street where you can buy lots of things you want, but nothing you actually need. Giddy Grocer being the latest vendor with an unwritten motto of never knowingly underpriced.

Sadly, TBR is heading the same way now.

My comment was more about the aesthetics, rather than about commercial enterprises :)
Monday 22 January 2018 5.54pm
Gavin Smith wrote:
I'd say that the Bermondsey Street heritage - whatever that actually is - was lost years back. People who talk about "heritage" clearly have no idea what stood on Tanner Street, the height of the buildings/warehouses that stood there, or indeed what stood on the open space prior to its enlargement. In heritage terms, Bermondsey Street and its immediate surroundings were dark and dismal places. To suggest, therefore, that its heritage is at risk is a bit disingenuous. Perhaps we can be enlightened?
This is a classic case of nimbyism. The net effect of reading this thread is that I have gone to the Southwark planning website to register my support for the proposal.

Gavin, maybe this link will help you? https://www.southwark.gov.uk/planning-and-building-control/design-and-conservation/conservation-areas?chapter=4 The Bermondsey Street Conservation area was created 45 years ago in 1973. Conservation areas are protected by law due to their special or historic architectural character and appearance.

www.richardqmiller.com
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