Zoe wrote:. What about the choice and feelings etc of the foetus?It's not for anyone to comment on someone else's choices. I would never presume to form a judgement on someone who chooses euthanasia, they and their family have their own journey and it's their decision. Abortion is the same, it's not for someone to presume to comment on the choice of another, it's their life and their decision.
Paramount wrote:What about the choice and feelings etc of the foetus?
Karen I wrote:This is a NONSENSE!!! The Bible says God has known us BEFORE the foundation of the world and before being formed in our Mothers wombs! Get it???Paramount, your childish comment makes you sound like one of Abort67; that's exactly what they said to me during one of their protests. You don't seriously think an embryo can think do you? Anyway, I for one am very pleased that this group of people will be told to back off; they are a nasty, hypocritical bunch of people who champion the rights of an embryo but argue against the rights of a thinking individual. Yes, abortion is a difficult subject. Imagine if you had to make a decision between taking a pregnancy to full stage or give birth to an incurably sick, disabled child, or to continue with the pregnancy for a child you just can't afford. I am grateful that condoms, the pill and the coil worked for me and I never had to make such a difficult decision, but glad that if they hadn't worked, I would not have had to have a child. Having said that, people must be allowed to have an opinion. It is whether they judge that is more important.
Paramount wrote:NONSENSE!!! The Bible says God has known us BEFORE the foundation of the world and before being formed in our Mothers wombs! Get it???
Ivanhoe wrote:Yes God does choose. Jacob have I loved. But Esau have I hated.. Predestination.IIRC the actual quote is that god CHOSE those who believe, not KNEW?
One of Pauls letters, isn't it?
Often used by the sects of Christianity who assert that salvation is limited exclusively to a subset of chosen people.
Anyway, arguing that something is true because the bible says so is faith not logic.