Pigeon feeding - 400,000 annual cost

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Monday 12 February 2018 1.49pm
spartacus wrote:
The sheer amount of waste being dumped suggests it's coming from a local caff.....

Spartacus!

Well spotted, I think you are on to something.

I will do some checking ... if I find any food outlets disposing of their waste to pigeon feeders they will be reported to the dept of the environment or appropriate gov dept.

A business certainly can be fined for irresponsible disposal of waste. A stiff fine and undertakings not to repeat under threat of being shut down should swiftly bring a halt to that little game.

After all the posts and replies this is the first new idea, thanks.

Sometimes I wish that I too was Spartacus!

faraday
Tuesday 13 February 2018 10.43am
faraday wrote:
spartacus wrote:
The sheer amount of waste being dumped suggests it's coming from a local caff.....
Sometimes I wish that I too was Spartacus!

faraday

I am Spartacus....

faraday, I confess I can't take your comments entirely seriously - a bit of tongue in cheek there?

Anyway, it will need coincidence or dedicated staking out to discover the 'pitta litter louts'. Should I happen to see them in the act I will attempt to intervene. I sometimes wish I had the courage to go out with a litter picker and clean the stuff up but I'm not the SE1 version of David Sedaris.....

https://www.theguardian.com/books/shortcuts/2014/jul/31/david-sedaris-litter-picker-rubbish-waste-vehicle-pig-pen-west-sussex
Tuesday 13 February 2018 12.45pm
So it's pigeon feeders that are to blame for the rat problem? Nothing to do with the wall to wall, door to door eateries we have all over the place, applauded by all? Or perhaps we should all agree to pay a little more Council Tax to cater (scuse the pun) for the extra food wastage that our dustmen have to deal with.

Anyway, the threat of disease from pigeons is greatly exaggerated, but hey, this is about unsightliness too right? Me thinks there are certain human types that would be preferred living elsewhere and not blighting the area for the beautiful and bearded.
Tuesday 13 February 2018 4.58pm
boroughonian wrote:
Anyway, the threat of disease from pigeons is greatly exaggerated

This thread is lengthy so one would expect many mentions of this greatly exaggerated threat ... so other than you, who has spoken of it?

Quote:
So it's pigeon feeders that are to blame for the rat problem?

Its people who throw food all over the place ... pigeon feeders are offenders in this respect.

Your village is missing you.

faraday

PS http://www.2.southwark.gov.uk/info/200178/environmental_crime/773/fixed_penalty_noticesfines
Thursday 15 February 2018 12.10pm
and then cluck they came tweet for me coo.

This thread reminds me of the KFC one, or the argument about begging and the homeless in the area.......not a good look.
Thursday 15 February 2018 12.22pm
faraday wrote:
boroughonian wrote:
Anyway, the threat of disease from pigeons is greatly exaggerated

This thread is lengthy so one would expect many mentions of this greatly exaggerated threat ... so other than you, who has spoken of it?

Quote:
So it's pigeon feeders that are to blame for the rat problem?

Its people who throw food all over the place ... pigeon feeders are offenders in this respect.

Your village is missing you.

faraday

PS http://www.2.southwark.gov.uk/info/200178/environmental_crime/773/fixed_penalty_noticesfines

There are probably fewer pigeons and fewer people feeding them than ever before, the rat problem is greater than it's been for decades, go figure.

I never left my village, it's full of idiots though, recent additions.

So your concern is the 400k is it?
Thursday 15 February 2018 12.46pm
I was just thinking, years ago around here, you would always see loads of bread off cuts in the streets, loads of people fed the birds, there was always a "catwoman" about too, she would leave tins of opened (obviously) cat food for the strays, never saw no rats though and that's with all the bomb sites/dumps around too.

If we have a rat problem, it's because of all the food outlets in the area, which I enjoy, nothing else.
Thursday 15 February 2018 9.22pm
boroughonian wrote:
I was just thinking, years ago around here, you would always see loads of bread off cuts in the streets, loads of people fed the birds, there was always a "catwoman" about too, she would leave tins of opened (obviously) cat food for the strays, never saw no rats though and that's with all the bomb sites/dumps around too.
If we have a rat problem, it's because of all the food outlets in the area, which I enjoy, nothing else.

Ah, the good old days. When little Gertrude Lawrence danced to the music of the barrel organ and fed off fish-heads picked up from the gutters in Kennington.
Thursday 22 February 2018 1.01pm
John C wrote:
boroughonian wrote:
I was just thinking, years ago around here, you would always see loads of bread off cuts in the streets, loads of people fed the birds, there was always a "catwoman" about too, she would leave tins of opened (obviously) cat food for the strays, never saw no rats though and that's with all the bomb sites/dumps around too.
If we have a rat problem, it's because of all the food outlets in the area, which I enjoy, nothing else.

Ah, the good old days. When little Gertrude Lawrence danced to the music of the barrel organ and fed off fish-heads picked up from the gutters in Kennington.

Ahhh the sweary teacher. You wouldn't understand. We had it good, and before us they had it better. Now we're going backwards. I despair.
Thursday 22 February 2018 5.37pm
boroughonian wrote:
John C wrote:
boroughonian wrote:
I was just thinking, years ago around here, you would always see loads of bread off cuts in the streets, loads of people fed the birds, there was always a "catwoman" about too, she would leave tins of opened (obviously) cat food for the strays, never saw no rats though and that's with all the bomb sites/dumps around too.
If we have a rat problem, it's because of all the food outlets in the area, which I enjoy, nothing else.

Ah, the good old days. When little Gertrude Lawrence danced to the music of the barrel organ and fed off fish-heads picked up from the gutters in Kennington.

Ahhh the sweary teacher. You wouldn't understand. We had it good, and before us they had it better. Now we're going backwards. I despair.

No, boroughonian - I'm afraid don't remember the 'good old days'. There was a war on when I was born, I grew up in east London in the 1950s, somehow missed out on 'flower power' in the 1960s, and was too busy working for the next 40 years to notice whether the days were particularly good or bad. But it's left me healthier, better housed, better clothed, better fed and better educated than my parents and their parents were. And it all started with the socialist legislation of the post-War Labour government. In spite of all the efforts of Mad Margaret Thatcher and the gaggle of incompetent imitators who have followed her in government I'm still optimistic - at least about my own life. If I despair it's for the young and for future generations; there are certainly a lot of things wrong with society today. If I have a particular concern it's that it was people of my age who voted in such large numbers for Brexit. My father always assumed that education would solve all our problems - after all, he said, no properly educated person could be foolish enough to vote Tory. Sadly, state education after the War seems to have bred a generation of people many of whom were idiotic enough to vote for Brexit. Perhaps that's where nostalgia for the good old days leads you.

I really should learn to label my less serious comments with 'JOKE'. If you got the Gertrude Lawrence reference you should know that her claim to have danced to the barrel-organ and 'gnawed kippers' heads in the gutter' was apparently something she put on to impress American journalists with her poverty-stricken working-class origins (which wasn't true).

PS - I don't get the reference to 'the sweary (?) teacher' - if you mean me, sorry, but I've never been a teacher.

PPS - apologies, James, but this is a long way off-subject. Whatever happened to the pigeons?
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