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Wednesday 4 April 2018 11.24am
Jules62 wrote:
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But the writing is on the wall. Let's revisit this discussion in two years time and see what people will be writing about Brexit then...

It took the Germans ten years to realise they'd voted for the wrong party in 1933.
Wednesday 4 April 2018 12.35pm
John C wrote:
Jules62 wrote:
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But the writing is on the wall. Let's revisit this discussion in two years time and see what people will be writing about Brexit then...

It took the Germans ten years to realise they'd voted for the wrong party in 1933.

Thats nothing compared to the 43 years it took UK workers to realise the EU is not what what it pretends to be. We in the UK know we must get out when things become toxic ... after all ... we are not German.
Wednesday 4 April 2018 1.57pm
John C wrote:
Jules62 wrote:
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But the writing is on the wall. Let's revisit this discussion in two years time and see what people will be writing about Brexit then...

It took the Germans ten years to realise they'd voted for the wrong party in 1933.

It's interesting that the original EU was an anti-nazi resistance group:
Wednesday 4 April 2018 10.41pm
Well we must recall a period when we made our own laws etc for good or bad...The EU Common Market was always always on probation and the UK never seemed fully at home with the concept

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Thursday 5 April 2018 9.14am
Paramount wrote:
Well we must recall a period when we made our own laws etc for good or bad...The EU Common Market was always always on probation and the UK never seemed fully at home with the concept

Only part of the UK, going by the EU ref. It was only 52 vs 48% after all. Unfinished business. Also, it has yet to be seen which laws we'll be replacing.
Thursday 5 April 2018 11.38am
I think we will be ok after Brexit, no better or worse.
However we will have spent years, an incredible amount of money and energy on something for no real benefit. We will have to discuss with our European neighbours about every sector just to end up with something rather similar to what we had before.
In my organisation we will spend the next few years (2 for sure, probably more) mainly on Brexit related work distracting us from our real objectives.
Think about the public sector...
Alienating Scotland, Northern Ireland and young generation in the process.
Basically a waste of time. And for what? So that David Cameron could win the elections in 2015.
Thursday 5 April 2018 11.45am
eDWaRD WooDWaRD wrote:
Paramount wrote:
Well we must recall a period when we made our own laws etc for good or bad...The EU Common Market was always always on probation and the UK never seemed fully at home with the concept

Only part of the UK, going by the EU ref. It was only 52 vs 48% after all. Unfinished business. Also, it has yet to be seen which laws we'll be replacing.

And to bring it back to our own locality - according to figures published by the Evening Standard the day after the vote, the London Borough of Southwark voted 72% for Remain v 28% for Leave - 94,293 Remain / 35,209 Leave. Not as impressive a result as our neighbours over in Lambeth of course, where 78% voted Remain, but just a reminder that those who lecture us on this website about 'democracy' and 'accepting the will of the people' don't actually represent the views of the majority of their own townsfolk.
Thursday 5 April 2018 7.01pm
John C wrote:
eDWaRD WooDWaRD wrote:
Paramount wrote:
Well we must recall a period when we made our own laws etc for good or bad...The EU Common Market was always always on probation and the UK never seemed fully at home with the concept

Only part of the UK, going by the EU ref. It was only 52 vs 48% after all. Unfinished business. Also, it has yet to be seen which laws we'll be replacing.

And to bring it back to our own locality - according to figures published by the Evening Standard the day after the vote, the London Borough of Southwark voted 72% for Remain v 28% for Leave - 94,293 Remain / 35,209 Leave. Not as impressive a result as our neighbours over in Lambeth of course, where 78% voted Remain, but just a reminder that those who lecture us on this website about 'democracy' and 'accepting the will of the people' don't actually represent the views of the majority of their own townsfolk.

Very true.
Friday 6 April 2018 10.38am
What I don't understand is how the votes was on a knife-edge, 52% voting in favour, and with some very dodgy campaign practices going on from the Brexit side, yet apparently the matter is settled for a generation?

If the vote was reversed and remain got 52%, you bet we would be hearing about it non-stop from the Brexiters and they'd be demanding another referendum every year or two.

Well sorry but I am not shutting up about it and I know plenty of remainers feel similarly. This is looking like the biggest national farce since Suez; people who know very little about the issues have voted to self-harm their own nation economically, culturally, diplomatically.
Friday 6 April 2018 12.12pm
LiviaDrusilla wrote:
If the vote was reversed and remain got 52%, you bet we would be hearing about it non-stop from the Brexiters and they'd be demanding another referendum every year or two.

Farage said before the EU Ref that 52% would mean unfinished business. The fact that you don't hear the shameless hypocrite about that now tells you everything about his total lack of integrity.
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