What's wrong with old buildings?

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Wednesday 11 August 2004 11.45am
What do Southwark council have against maintaining old buildings in the area? Why do they seem to prefer demolition to rennovation?
I am referring to the disgraceful destruction that is currently underway on St Michaels church in Lant Street; the hole in the ground that was once the Old Bacon Factory on Great Suffolk Street and now I hear the Undertakers on Southwark Bridge Road has also now been condemmed!
Who benefits by this destruction? The developers. People who don't live here and don't care about the consequences of their profiteering on the community. These are some of the last remaining period buildings in the area, which is quite a feat considering that much of the area was devastated during the blitz.
But do the council actually care what the community thinks of their brash commercialist attitude? Of course not, but when election time comes around they might have a few regrets! Vote em out!
Wednesday 11 August 2004 12.24pm
Your right..there was an old pub opposite the undertakers full of period features, now demolished with luxury flats which I dont think have sold yet...

My main gripe was how many schools were sold off, all for 'affordable' housing, because the population was decreasing....I think no public building should be destroyed by any party in power without a vote carried out by the press...
now Southwark needs new schools....

At a risk of repeating myself once more, the lovely library at the Bricklayers roundabout , stained glass windows, curved stair, beautiful building internally and external.

St Matthews church New Kent Road, demolished, flats built on the site...replaced by a modern brick built shed around the corner....

ps. has any one a photo of the library to post here?
Wednesday 11 August 2004 2.24pm
when did that libray go then? i dont' remember it
yeah i hate the number of old pubs that have gone, every where i look another one's disapeared
Wednesday 11 August 2004 2.43pm
Jan, there is a lovely photo of that library in a book called "Southwark, Bermondsey & Rotherhithe, A Second Selection" by Stephen Humphrey, published by Sutton Publishing in 1997. There are 8 pages on the Bricklayers Arms area and Old Kent Road. Looking at those pictures breaks my heart, as the buildings survived the blitz, only to be destroyed by the flyover in 1967.





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Wednesday 11 August 2004 3.08pm
How lovely Nelson..I'll get that, :-) and I forgot the beautiful old pubs there too...sniff, sniff.....thank you....
Wednesday 11 August 2004 3.45pm


image id: EVA1001353/SC/PHL/02096580/0236042.1 BRI
title: Bricklayers' Arms, Rotherhithe
description: Corner elevation of Mann, Crossman & Paulin public house
photographer: Greater London Council
date: 1905
in collection: London Metropolitan Archives (lma)
keywords: Public Houses
geography: Adam Street, 037; Bermondsey Metb: London; Bricklayers' Arms, Rotherhithe





image id:
EVA1001053/SC/PHL/02067870/0547528.061 REP
title: Bricklayers Arms Flyover
description: Flyover under construction between Old Kent Road and New Kent Road with tower blocks and Saint Paul's Cathedral in distance
photographer: Greater London Council
date: 1970
in collection: London Metropolitan Archives (lma)
keywords: Flyovers
geography: Southwark LB: London; Old Kent Road; Bricklayers Arms Flyover


image id:
EVA1001054/SC/PHL/02067870/0547328.061 REP
title: Bricklayers Arms Flyover
description: Flyover under construction between Old Kent Road and New Kent Road
photographer: Greater London Council
date: 1970
in collection: London Metropolitan Archives (lma)
keywords: Flyovers
geography: New Kent Road; Southwark LB: London; Bricklayers Arms Flyover





Wednesday 11 August 2004 4.14pm
Yes- there is also a photo of the pub in the opposite corner in that book. Also some other gems, like the earlier Crossway Church, that was replaced by the one on Heygate Estate, a view towards the Jam Factory from 1934, and loads from Bermondsey Square and a quite grand Tower Bridge Hotel. Very good book to learn more of our local history in pictures.
Wednesday 11 August 2004 6.07pm
Thank you for the photos Lang Rabbie, I am now printing them off...:-)
Wednesday 11 August 2004 9.32pm
That first flyover photo, from 1970, is fascinating because it highlights how many tall buildings would be in that viewpoint now, that weren't there then.
Imagine what that view will look like in another 34 years time! Even in 14 years time that view will be full of 20-odd storey buildings.

The reason for much of the demolition is of course the potential for increased density, and its not all about market forces. The new Southwark Plan currently undergoing the last phases of consultation looks like it will have a presumption in favour of increased height and density in most of our area. So look forward to lots of low-rise and street properties being demolished and replaced by 6-8 storey blocks, and plenty of tall towers dotted around too.

In the case of the Church Hall in Lant St, the primary beneficiary of this process is not a commercial developer, but the local community, in that the site is being used to finance the underpinning work on St George's Church at Borough and the development of the crypt for community facilities.

Wednesday 11 August 2004 10.44pm
Southwatk council are right about potters fields ,

but it seems thats the only thing there right about

they dont seem to be able to make an asthetic desision without cocking it up.
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