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Friday 14 April 2006 6.01pm
Beverly... a very good point. I was going to say the same myself.

The percentage of SE1 housing stock that is "premium" property is tiny, absolutely tiny. I'd bet it's less than 1%. And the same with retail. We are not swamped with fancy coffee shops etc no matter how much people say we are (usually citing "Sobo", almost solely, as evidence.)
Saturday 15 April 2006 7.24am
Well said Beverly. I'm on several committees involved in the Renewal of the Elephant project and it certainly isnt full of cut glass accents and calls for more boutiques. And the residents of the Heygate Estate and the Aylesbury Estate are going to be given alternate housing HERE in the borough, and low rise housing at that.
Saturday 15 April 2006 10.06am
Yes, some of that "alternate" housing is planned for the butterfly walk and other green space at Dickens Square, with some more to be built on the community garden and Bankside Open Spaces Trust HQ.
Thursday 26 June 2008 8.38am
Jack Carter wrote:
..................I grew up in SE1, just like most of my family, going back generations.
Just stumbled across this website and thought i'd post about the sickening gentrification of the area

An area that was once poor, but had soul, was lively and had community, now has turned into a soulless wannabe Hoxton yuppy nightmare

Bermondsey Street has to be one of the most pretentious places going. Do you yuppies realised what you have done to the area?

Same with places like Shoreditch, Clapham, Battersea etc..................the middle classes come in and wreck an area.

I can't wait for the day when urban living (the most crindge worthy phrase around) is not 'hip' anymore and the real people of the area can reclaim it

SoBo..............LOL

Using terms like 'urban, edgy', drinking in trendy wine bars with names like village east, wearing baggy, ripped jeans and not shaving does not mean you are a true SE1 bod

When the time comes, these yuppies will move off to the suburbs and raise their 2.4 familes, whilst telling people they used to live in da ghetto, rough old Bermondsey etc

You might take our areas and drive us out but you'll never be accepted

Jarvis Cocker wrote common people for the idiots who use terms like SoBo.............

Thank you so much for saying what i have wanted to say along with 3 generations of my family. The influx of arrogant opinionated people to this area in part is what has ruined living here for others. It is always the way and always will be. A vast amount of opinions on this site are bigotted beyond belief although this is inherent aspect of the character of many people moved or moving in recently. Having lived in the area since birth,my mother and grandmother too, we regularly discuss the influx of do gooding joes, who as they have throughout their lives forced their ideas down peoples throats, move to se1. Guess what? They do the same here! Once again a 'thanks' to Jack Carter.
Thursday 26 June 2008 10.16am
Do I detect inverse snobbery? A chip on a shoulder?
I myself have been subjected to the sort of comments and opinions expressed by you, Toufan and Jack Carter. My grandfather was born in Alma Road (long gone) and I was brought up in a council flat and live in one now and very happy I am too, thank you. However, I like the new trees and planting in my area and the general improvements that have been made, unlike some who resisted with such comments as "We live on a council estate, not a country estate", and "What's the point of having a palace built on a ****-heap", and "If I want trees, I'll live in the country". There is an underlying seething resentment of people who try to make their lives (an others) more pleasant which manifests itself in vandalism and disrespect.
Thursday 26 June 2008 10.24am
@toufan:

Whatever.

Gentrification of central London areas like SE1 is simply a result of the capitalist society that we live in - property prices desirable locations such as Bermondsey Street go up - hence the number of urban/edgy/poncy wine bars/eateries goes up to match. Unless we have some kind of socialist revolution in the near future then don't expect to see an end to it any time soon!

Also I don't really get the 'me, my mother and my grandmother have lived here since birth' argument. Are you trying to say that people should never move into a new area because they might be ruining it for the people that have lived there for 'generations'? Again, whatever.
Thursday 26 June 2008 11.21am
Let's not shilly, shally about this kind of post by @toufan and Jack Carter. They are stuffed full of cliches from people not quite reconciled to the the present. They like to appear patriotic and un-biased but in fact the nationalistic rhetoric bubbles under the surface of "protect our areas from change" argument. I've always felt that we should welcome change, be open minded to our neighbours, respect those who respect us, irrespective of class, colour or how many generations of their families have lived in an area. It doesn't take long to research the history of this area in the local libraries and see that the vision of a "rosy" past is a long way from the hard, poor life reality of many of the slums then dominant in this area.
Thursday 26 June 2008 11.27am
JayBee wrote:
Do I detect inverse snobbery? A chip on a shoulder?
I myself have been subjected to the sort of comments and opinions expressed by you, Toufan and Jack Carter. My grandfather was born in Alma Road (long gone) and I was brought up in a council flat and live in one now and very happy I am too, thank you. However, I like the new trees and planting in my area and the general improvements that have been made, unlike some who resisted with such comments as "We live on a council estate, not a country estate", and "What's the point of having a palace built on a ****-heap", and "If I want trees, I'll live in the country". There is an underlying seething resentment of people who try to make their lives (an others) more pleasant which manifests itself in vandalism and disrespect.
You misunderstand.I do not oppose any regeneration. It is obviously possitive planting trees and shrubbery. You have the same warped view as the people i am talking about. You automatically assume i do not favour possitive improvements to the community, whilst refering to ignorant comments you quoted.
Thursday 26 June 2008 11.38am
marcusgreenwood wrote:
@toufan:
Whatever.

Gentrification of central London areas like SE1 is simply a result of the capitalist society that we live in - property prices desirable locations such as Bermondsey Street go up - hence the number of urban/edgy/poncy wine bars/eateries goes up to match. Unless we have some kind of socialist revolution in the near future then don't expect to see an end to it any time soon!

Also I don't really get the 'me, my mother and my grandmother have lived here since birth' argument. Are you trying to say that people should never move into a new area because they might be ruining it for the people that have lived there for 'generations'? Again, whatever.
I didn't think you would get it!!! People should be encouraged to move to new areas, just as my family originally from Rif mountains moved here in a time when foreign families were truly not welcome. My grandmother and grandfather did not struggle here to enforce their views of 'right and wrong' on the already inhabitants.
Thursday 26 June 2008 11.38am
The original post was 2 years ago. So much has changed in 2 years.
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