Another Dead Pub

Any idea whats happening with the Hand in Hand pub? it seems to be boarded up for ages... mostly like some developer waiting on planning application... such a lovely plot... with the carpark.. someones going to make a lot of money from cheap build apartments... just like the one on the site of 'duke of wellington / issac bells'

shame.... its a lovely building...

No replies on "chatter" yet so I'll try here. Does anyone recall the former name of the The Barnaby pub in Ilderton Road?

Yes, it was the "Canterbury Tavern"

hmeah - re The Hand in Hand - London & Quadrant Housing Trust want to knock it down and build 22 flats on the site:
http://tinyurl.com/handinhand-meadowrow

Boss St Bloke wrote:

Yes, it was the "Canterbury Tavern"

Thanks very much BSB

wasn't the Canterbury the one on the corner of Ilderton Road and the OKR which is now a resturant?

dee dee wrote:

wasn't the Canterbury the one on the corner of Ilderton Road and the OKR which is now a resturant?

Almost Dee Dee, that was the Canterbury Arms, personally I only remember the Barnaby as the Barnaby.

Kitreno puts their finger on the root of the problem.

kitreno wrote:

Most of the pubs around here, like the Hand in Hand are true locals, which I'm frankly a bit scared to go in.

The problem is a fair bit with the people running the pubs. As our area changes, particularly the estates, then if you don't attract new people as well then they're going to be stuffed eventually.

I spotted a chalked sign outside The Rising Sun on Harper Road the other day which had a 'use it or lose it' sign outside.

As is clear from the threads people moving in to the area like 'character' but also like to feel safe and comfortable when they go for a drink.

Interestingly, one of my neighbours who has lived on my estate for absolute donkeys and is very much a part of the local community has said there's only two pubs she'd go in - The Roebuck and The Royal Oak. So that's No to The Rising Sun , No to The William , No to The Beehive , No to The Black Horse ......

and the problem is that when they go they become problems as squats/ havens for antisocial behaviour - speak to the neighbours of The Hand in Hand. They just wish the place would be redeveloped so that the problems stop.

all sad, but true

jpm wrote:

Interestingly, one of my neighbours who has lived on my estate for absolute donkeys and is very much a part of the local community has said there's only two pubs she'd go in - The Roebuck and The Royal Oak. So that's No to The Rising Sun , No to The William , No to The Beehive , No to The Black Horse ......

and another big No to the pub down Bath Terrace. When I moved in round here (a dozen or so yrs ago), I went to each of those pubs. And felt welcome in none of them, apart from the Oak (or the Roebuck, but only really if we went in with a friend who was known to the regulars).

The Roebuck has changed a lot over the last 10 yrs. I remember a bar conversation on my first visit there about the best way to "really hurt someone". It was a lively debate which took a fair bit of time, iirc, as everyone had their own feelings on the matter of technique and tools to be used. Today's Roebuck is entirely different. Whatever you think of the place, it now presents a friendly face to new customers.

The William made a sustained effort over a couple of years to become a more welcoming place. It nearly worked.

The other pubs you mention make no effort to look like anything other than the pub out of Shameless.

I like pubs. I sometimes like them too much. But I couldn't imagine me ever going in any of those places.

i gather The Beehive has changed hands recently and has been done up but not been in there myself but have been told it is ok

The Roebuck always seems so souless to me

i would not go in the Rising Sun nor the Black Horse either!