Prospective demolition of Borough Market

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Sunday 24 December 2006 3.30am
Please sign a petition against the demonlition of 22 listed buildings in Borough and Network Rail's current proposals to extend the THAMESLINK line over Borough High Street and through the Borough Market when it could be put through Elephant and Castle to much better effect and with much less destruction.

http://www.petitiononline.com/sabmac2/petition.html
Sunday 24 December 2006 7.27am
Done that! Plus pithy comment.
Sunday 24 December 2006 3.12pm
This scheme has already been approved by the planning inspector, so a petition at this late stage will do no good at all, and will just look like negative nimbyism.
It would be much better to stress the POSITIVE advantages of re-routeing most Bedford-Brighton trains through Elephant, avoiding London Bridge:
(1) It would save a lot of money on building the proposed new viaduct. This should appeal to Gordon Brown, who has to decide whether central government is going to fund the scheme.
(2) It would greatly improve the transport links for Elephant in support of the huge redevelopment which is about to get under way (which supposedly includes rebuilding the station). At present E&C has regular trains to three major centres in the south of Greater London -- Wimbledon, Sutton and Bromley -- but only a ridiculous one train a day to the biggest such centre of all, Croydon.
(3) There is spare capacity almost the whole day long between Blackfriars and Herne Hill. And the bottleneck at Herne Hill (where the Brixton-Bromley line crosses) will become easier to manage once Eurostar vacates its present Waterloo-Bromley route next September.
(4) Nothing stops other trains from Brighton/Gatwick terminating at London Bridge, as they always used to do. There is no obvious need for Thameslink to serve London Bridge as well as Blackfriars, other than that it provides connection with the Jubilee Line. But there are reasonable alternatives for most destinations - and the interchange at London Bridge is poor anyway.
Tuesday 26 December 2006 10.26am
There is no "prospective demolition of Borough Market" as the title suggests.

As far as I can see the rail development will have less impact on Borough Market than the changes that the market has already seen over the last 5 years.
Tuesday 26 December 2006 4.12pm
For those that wish to review the decision letter, you might want to have a look here:

http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/dft_about/documents/page/dft_about_613234-04.hcsp

It gives the decision background and conditions.

Regards,

Loafer
Thursday 28 December 2006 1.05pm
Jonathan K wrote:
There is no "prospective demolition of Borough Market" as the title suggests.
As far as I can see the rail development will have less impact on Borough Market than the changes that the market has already seen over the last 5 years.

While it is true that the market as a whole is not to be demolished, the potential impact of the railway viaduct on the market surroundings and its continued operation is enormous:

Apart from the demolition of over 20 listed buildings, others are to be 'modified' to accommodate the new line, which will mean the 'temporary' rehousing of people who have lived in the area for years, together with some existing businesses. The disruption that will involve may mean some will be unable to afford to return.

Dispruption to surrounding roads by the enabling work and ongoing construction will certainly restrict space and access to the market area for the wholesale and retail traders and the public, to the extent that even those businesses that not currently in the direct path or adjacent to the new viaduct may find it impossible to continue trading at BM and may never return.

The refurbished section near Southwark Cathedral is earmarked for wholesale traders and there is little remaining space available to accommodate all the displaced retail traders and the associated delivery / parking space required.

The major changes over the last few years have helped a revitalisation of the area, and thanks to the resurgence of interest, BM has grown and evolved gradually over the last 6-7 years into what it is today - like or loathe whatever it represents to those who use or avoid it! Long term survival of the market in any form will ultimately depend on the determination of traders and public alike to keep it viable on a long term basis during and post the viaduct building works.

No amount of petition signing at this stage will alter the fact that the viaduct now has has planning permission. IF the project gets funding, all bets are off that the costs will be kept within the [currently enormous] budget, and it is quite likely that the only bit that will be built will be the BM viaduct section, because THAT is the bit Network Rail are most keen to build to relieve congestion into London Bridge.


[BTW, for the sake of clarity, I am not a trader and have no local business interest other than as a shopper at the market].

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