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Tolstoy Monday 5 November 2007 5.43pm
As someone who lives directly behind the Tate Modern and therefore in one of those 'totally dead' streets (and I must say your use of the term already suggests a bias in your research), could I ask why it is felt necessary to fill them? The 'peace' in the local is greatly enjoyed by those who live here and frankly doesn't need messing about with.

One of the attractions of the area is the nature of it's small scale economy, spread throughout the area in it's maze of streets. Being able to leave my flat and find a place of solitude in the numerous green plots is a delight in itself, coming across small family run businesses is still possible here and a number of streets still retain an infrastructure geared to serving that community.

The Southbank is a five minute walk away if I seek 'nightlife' so what need I of it where I live?
mick4recycle Monday 5 November 2007 6.51pm
theres clubbing in Vauxhall

it could expand all the way to Waterloo
if you follow the railway line

it is already unavoidably noisy (the trains)

also there are plenty of greenspaces - there are fewer buildings next to railway - so theres plenty of ready-made outdoor chill out areas

sometimes you see a whole crowd of guys in spring gardens on a sunday
at the the moment it looks gay only - but
once girls discover it and want an evening with good dancers who wont try anything (haha)
...itll only be a matter of time before they attract straight guys too

and the arches make groovy venues
krunal shah Tuesday 6 November 2007 9.34am
I am Happy to see such a strong community feedback.
firstly all comments are appreciated.

I would like to mention at this point that there are no presummptions being made about what are the forms of night life which should be boosted in this area ,if at all it is required ??..

I would say night life traditionally was more a community based activity before it was taken over by corporates .today when i see south bank in this context ,,i did notice similar gestures,,for example st.john's tavern next to potter's field park was pulled down.I am not sure what is being planned there but it does not make sense to pull down a building (only retianing its facades) ,since its not only about putting it down, but also about community who was using it .
developers and government also make a mistake of selling a property they owned for best value they cuold get out of it ,without thinking much how many people it will affect.
my project could lead only to saving such traditional public houses ,asking for a change in government policies about them ,provided there is a strong local commitment as well about the places they use and visit.

my project is also not concentrated on profit motives ,since its an acedemic project(not a real life ) and me being an outsider (international student) shouldn't be bias at all.
infact what interest me more is to creat more places for under-represented communities (urban-poor,skaters,goths , non-consumers and locals) and all those who cannot afford to go to west end's costly venues.

it is about how to create a balance between corporate and local ownership and saving south bank from being corporated take over.
PKM Tuesday 6 November 2007 11.39am
Krunal, I think what we are trying to convey is that we don't want the South Bank to be like the WestEnd or to replicate any other part of London. We want to maintain its uniqueness. If we want West End style entertainment or want to experience the bars of Upper St or the charm of Spitalfields, these places are all easy distance from here. People should visit the SouthBank for its culture, river views, quiet areas (basically the things it already has) because thats what differentiates it from other places.

Good luck with your studies - I think you have probably got some good material already!
acox Wednesday 7 November 2007 9.18pm
Krunal,
This sounds like a great project. I live off Southwark Park Road so I am not sure if you are looking that far from the river however I would like to make a few suggestions.

1. We need more restaurants. What we have are an overabundance of take away places and all-day english breakfast shoppes. The nice restaurants for a proper sit down dinner are at Shad Thames but it would be nice to have a few more elsewhere.

2. I am also concerned about the closure of loads of local pubs in the area. I do not know why they have been closed but it seems a shame.

Good luck with the project.
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