Where is Newington?

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walworther Monday 3 March 2008 12.11pm
First Base are calling their scheme adjacent to St Mary's Churchyard '360' but also calling it 'Newington'. Using the name 'Elephant and Castle' obviously puts off posh punters (more fool them etc.)
The Mapmaker Monday 3 March 2008 12.52pm
From Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newington%2C_London

The name means "new farmstead" or the newer part of Walworth of which it became the parish. Local administration by the Vestry Boards within the metropolitan area assigned what is usually known as 'Walworth' as the vestry of 'St Mary, Newington'.

The name has now fallen out of common usage because of London's urban sprawl and most residents would refer to the area as either Borough or Elephant and Castle. The name lives on in the streets called Newington Causeway and Newington Butts and in the open space Newington Gardens, formerly the location of Horsemonger Lane Gaol from 1791.


History
Newington gained in importantance around 1200 with the establishment of Lambeth Palace nearby, which increased the local traffic. The area remained as a farming village with a low level of population until the second half of the 18th century. There was a little industry, for example, the manufacture of clay pipes for tobacco smoking. In William Shakespeare's time, there was a theatre called Newington Butts and later there were further theatres.

New roads brought development opportunities. The local landowner and MP for Winchester, Henry Penton, started to sell some of his farmland. The 19th century brought more dense speculative housebuilding, and some philanthropic provision too. The Trinity House Estate, laid out around a 1820s classical church by Francis Bedford, is still largely in existence.


Trinity Church Square forms part of a conservation areaThe scientist Michael Faraday was born here, in Newington Butts, in 1791. The visionary English artist Samuel Palmer was born in Newington in 1805
Lang Rabbie Monday 3 March 2008 2.48pm
James Hatts wrote:
Interesting that Trinity Church Square seems to be on higher ground than most of its surroundings when you look at the Environment Agency flood map here.

And if you scroll the map down, the site of St Mary's Newington, now the green space next to Elephant & Castle leisure centre, is also on higher ground.
James Hatts Monday 3 March 2008 2.57pm
I was trying to find this site yesterday but couldn't remember what it was called:

http://www.visionofbritain.org.uk/unit_page.jsp?u_id=10191002

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The Mapmaker Monday 3 March 2008 6.54pm
What an excellent site for timewasting, thank you James.


Anybody know anything of St Andrew's Church Newington?
James Hatts Monday 3 March 2008 7.30pm
Quote:
The parish of ST. ANDREW, Newington, was formed from Holy Trinity in 1877. (fn. 36) The church, in the New Kent Road, consists of a chancel with vestry and organ chamber, a nave with north and south aisles, a tower in the west bay of the south aisle and a shallow porch against the tower. It is built of stock bricks with red brick dressings and slate roofs. It is designed in late 13th-century style.
From http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=43034

I have a hunch it was on the site now occupied by the BP petrol station.

The building next to it looks very much like a Victorian clergy house.

See also
http://users.breathe.com/kcoa/0204%20wasit.htm
http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/LONDON/2001-06/0992041110

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The Mapmaker Monday 3 March 2008 7.56pm
It was indeed on the BP site - erected and that was indeed its vicarage. The church was built from such poor brickwork that its 25th anniversary appeal was to replace its red bricks. The vicarge was built from stocks. But a 3 manual Bishop; who'd have thought it - St James's Bermondsey has a Bishop.

You are better at googling than I am; whatever did you search for?

There is a plan at www.churchplansonline.org.

Became redundant during the war, demolished mid-1950s when BP purchased the site and put up their petrol station. The church hall remained for a long time after that as some sort of retail establishment.
James Hatts Sunday 20 July 2008 12.01pm
A picture of firefighters at St Andrew's church hall has just been added to Flickr:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/34517490@N00/2683778432/

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Cheebs Thursday 21 August 2008 12.01pm
Used to be a street sign on the old cematary wall next
to Churchyard Row NEWINGTON BUTTS S.E.11 A240 when Barclays bank used to be on the corner of Churchyard Row.
Lang Rabbie Thursday 26 April 2012 9.33pm
It wasn't until I read today's story about the installation of Canon Giles Fraser at St Mary's Newington - "a parish which includes the Strata tower, the Elephant & Castle Shopping Centre and part of the northern roundabout" that I realised that the Anglican parish boundaries still follow the old (pre 1950s) road lines from when the Walworth Road used to run all the way to the New Kent Road, through the middle of what is now the shopping centre.
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