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      <title>Re: Shops selling alcohol after hours</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/11164/11335#msg-11335</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (Jan Lane)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[pesky puzzling 'postrophe...i often stick 'em in the wrong place! especially after tonic wine.<br />
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      <title>Re: Shops selling alcohol after hours</title>
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      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (James)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I'll always remember Stewart Lee's observation of market fruit + veg stall holders who abuse the apostrophe and write &quot;Carrot's 50p&quot;.  What?  A carrot that actually has 50p?  A capitalist carrot???]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2004 10:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Shops selling alcohol after hours</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/11164/11332#msg-11332</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk ()</author>
      <description><![CDATA[A shop in Tower Bridge Road advertised: &quot;pills (sic) £1 a can&quot; a couple of years back.  Now was this loopy juice for unwashed gentlemen of leisure, or disco-biscuits for cool clubbers?  I never did find out.  By the by, speaking of interesting spelling, a shop in the OKR had a sign in its window: &quot;Awe phone cards supplied.&quot;]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2004 10:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Shops selling alcohol after hours</title>
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      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (James)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[True...maybe we need Stelios to think about EasyBooze...<br />
<br />
Like all his other operations (including the upcoming EasyPizza), if you order it well in advance and are willing to have it at a time of day no-one else wants it, you get it cheapest.  That'd work...<br />
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Or, to be more honest, I'm actually disappointed that we don't have more of a 24 hour culture - like New York - where you can get a drink, a burger, or even a restaurant meal at 4am if you like.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2004 10:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Shops selling alcohol after hours</title>
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      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (Ivanhoe returns)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Or how about the opposite, James?<br />
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Shopkeepers should charge you more (because your slow-moving expensive plonk ties up shelf space).  Also, I bet you shop at premium times when the shop is busy.<br />
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The Tenents-drinking gentlemen should get charged less.  They buy fast-moving lines in some bulk, and (at Kevin's local shop, anyway) they thoughtfully choose to shop in the quiter times when there's less pressure on staff, allowing the owners to spread their overheads.<br />
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      <pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2004 10:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Shops selling alcohol after hours</title>
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      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (Jan Lane)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[try a bottle of ' Tonic Wine' enriched with iron ( Wincarnis?) it's about 70%..I had a very pleasant post-op recuperating period a few years back.<br />
It must have been the iron that gave me the hangover...someone hit  me with it! I got sloshed so quick...I feel rather poorly again..<br />
need tonic...must have tonic.....<br />
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      <pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2004 10:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (James)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I'm all up for shopkeepers making bucks however they can, because there are so many mugs out there that can be exploited - it's easy money, so why wouldn't they?<br />
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I've been a mug - I have paid upwards of £2 for a bottle of mineral water at festivals.  I didn't have to, but it was convenient and I realised the price was par for the course.<br />
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I even pay 45p for a pint of milk every day, even though I know if I bought it in a supermarket instead of a newsagent, I'd pay about 13p less.  <br />
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In fact, I'd like to give shopkeepers the power to spot mugs and up the prices when they think they've got one.  Might keep the prices down for the rest of us.<br />
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Same for alcoholics -  whack the price up to our 'unwashed friends', the type who hold out a handful of money for the shopkeep to help themselves too 'cos they're too drunk to focus on the individual coins - and keep the price down for those of us who don't actually want to pay £6 for a bottle of plonk because the local Costcutter is the furthest we're happy to go...]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2004 09:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (Ivanhoe returns)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[keep the dilemmas coming Kevin.  A weekly topic is just what we need to keep the forum lively.  it's good to see what everyone thinks, and that's one of the strengths of this sort of forum for me.<br />
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[but, of course, you're sadly misguided :0)]<br />
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      <pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2004 08:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Shops selling alcohol after hours</title>
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      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (Kevin O'Neill)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Georgia, I pointed out the incongruity of my position about 30 posts ago...the initial one. <br />
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I don't like the idea of a shop so explicitly profiting from the alcoholics here. <br />
Not so fussed if they make extra from breaking the law in general.<br />
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BTW, Last week  on the Northern Line I stood, walked 2 paces &amp; and offered my seat to a heavily pregnant woman. In 10 seconds, another (fit -looking) woman took my seat. A number of passengers were embarrassed, but not the second woman.<br />
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To my mind that too is a manky way to act...but perhaps others would say it showed initiative.<br />
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Oh well...this is life in the big city, I suppose.<br />
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Kevin<br />
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I have cancelled  plans for a regular post - Kevin's &quot;dilemma of the week&quot;]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2004 17:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Shops selling alcohol after hours</title>
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      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (Georgia)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[*slumps forward, begins drumming head against monitor* <br />
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So you've no problem with 'cool clubbers' -buying a bottle of wine at 11pm- but if they look scruffy and possibly alcoholic, you want the poor beleagured 24-hour till worker to refuse them? How's that going to work?  <br />
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Wino: Can of Shhhhuperlager please.<br />
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Shop-owner:  Sorry sir, it's 11pm  *points at clock*<br />
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Wino: 'Ehhhhh...bah, you've just served vodka to Mr. C from the Shamen and Clive the dancer from the Hit Man and Her? What's that all about?<br />
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Shopkeeper: Aha, but they were cool clubbers, they looked like they had stable jobs and a upwardly mobile social circle. You my unwashed friend are an alcoholic. Now, this is for your own good- now please move away from the alcopos, I have to carry on splitting packs of Embassy Number One's to sell outside Captain Biffo's Creche on Duke Street.<br />
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* irretrievable chaos ensues- wino last seen fighting with himself in back of police car *<br />
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Come on Kevin- you don't want this do you?<br />
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ps please don't take offence- I'm just messing about :) I'm in my office working at the weekend, damnit,  I have to make my own fun...<br />
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      <pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2004 12:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (Kevin O'Neill)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[My initial post was not a spoof.  Everyone may disagree with me; but I was posing an honest question.  And pointing out that selling booze to cool clubbers on their way home would not have an emotional impact on me.<br />
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I know it's not the same as giving heroin to a child, but I still think it's a pretty manky way to turn a profit.<br />
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And if 24 hr shop sells lcohol round the clock to alcoholics, they may bump up the profits by selling single fags to kids. <br />
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Profit is all.<br />
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      <pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2004 15:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (barkyhead)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I've seen shops selling food to fat people, this can't be right.<br />
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      <pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2004 10:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (Mapmaker)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Don't you think that the only pleasure these poor chaps get from life comes in a can of Tennants?  (Maybe they're tenants of a can?)  It may be sad that that's the case, but it probably is, probably has been the case for years, and probably will never change.  So what can we do.  Deny them alcohol and deny them the (rather unpleasant, IMHO - no I'm not TT) only pleasure in their lives?  Or what?  If they were a bit more organised, they'd buy their Tennants up front and hide it at home/behind the Druid St bins, and then you couldn't look askance at them in the shop.  <br />
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I think I'm in favour of liberalisation of licensing laws.   They were only brought in to defeat the Hun during the Great War, and were never repealed.  Then we could get our booze at any hour of the day or night!<br />
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Deny them their booze and they'll live longer, but it will feel like it.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2004 16:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (James)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I could never get into Ben Kweller - although I quite like Simple Kid, and I imagine them to be similar for some reason...<br />
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If you like Indie folk (and if you don't mind it with a dash of punk), go see Hamell on Trial at the Borderline on Monday.  He's a man with an acoustic guitar, and he makes as much noise as a whole band put together...]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2004 15:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (Harriet)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Thank you all - I feel thoroughly name-checked...<br />
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...tho' no-one mentioned &quot;Harriet's got a song&quot; by indy-folk god Ben Kweller<br />
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      <pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2004 15:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (James)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Swing low, sweet Harriet...<br />
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Post edited (13 Feb 04 10:57)]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2004 10:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk ()</author>
      <description><![CDATA[All around my Harriet?]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2004 10:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (James)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I can do a little Steely Dan - is that close enough?]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2004 10:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (Harriet)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Ivanhoe,<br />
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You beat me to that by about 10 seconds...humpf.  <br />
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And there I was worried that no-one had the esoteric-taste musical upbringing that I did...you can't quote from Steeleye Span too can you ?<br />
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      <pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2004 10:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (Ivanhoe returns)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[no James.  Pearl's a singer<br />
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      <pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2004 10:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (James)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I'll bet Georgia's a singer in a band...musical people write like she does...]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2004 09:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (dave baker)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Georgia makes me laugh...]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2004 09:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk ()</author>
      <description><![CDATA[............................What's that?  Brasso?  Don't mind if I do!]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2004 09:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk ()</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Ahhh, British sherry, I remember when..........................]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2004 09:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (Ivanhoe returns)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Georgia,<br />
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LOL!!<br />
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I think you should come round for an evening with Mrs I and me.  He says he's found some rather nice British sherry....<br />
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      <pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2004 09:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (Georgia)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Ivanhoe- yes, I was most certainly being sarcy about getting the police onto after-hours wine supping!<br />
<br />
In fact, I read the original post again and again thinking it was a spoof :)<br />
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Sorry gang, I would have replied to this sooner, but on my way home late last night I found a cornershop selling Peach Mad Dog 20 20...One thing led to another and I spent the rest of the night round the back of Druid Street shouting at dustbins and doing press-ups in the road to impress passers-by.<br />
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And 'they' say I've got a problem? tsk...... :)]]></description>
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      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (jo green)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[But the question is Ivanhoe, will white lightening be served or will we have to bring our own?<br />
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LOLOLOL<br />
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Jo.]]></description>
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      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (red bus)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[<br />
<br />
sounds exclusive?]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2004 20:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (Ivanhoe returns)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[if you're very nice, you can come round to ours.  Mrs I will be the one on the door with the beard [mapmaker take note], but if you say the magic password, he'll let you in<br />
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      <pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2004 19:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Shops selling alcohol after hours</title>
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      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (red bus)</author>
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I like this idea of drinking myself in to the ground in a &quot;...private club somewhere that has managed to get round the licensing laws...&quot;<br />
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Are there any nearby in SE1 ??<br />
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can I be a member please ?]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2004 19:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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