http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/list/1 EN Fri, 16 Jul 2010 08:12:43 +0000 Fri, 16 Jul 2010 08:12:43 +0000 SE1 Discussion Phorum 5.1.6 600 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/129163#msg-129163 forum@london-se1.co.uk (beverly) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/129163#msg-129163 Fri, 16 Jul 2010 08:12:43 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/128847#msg-128847 forum@london-se1.co.uk (Burgess Park project manager)
The first event at Burgess Park was last night, with lots of feedback. We'd like to urge anyone with an interest to come to the remaining ones - details on our facebook page: www.facebook.com/burgesspark]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/128847#msg-128847 Fri, 09 Jul 2010 12:49:13 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/128736#msg-128736 forum@london-se1.co.uk (jamesup)
I'd encourage a focus on really good outside sports facilities, football pitches, a cricket square, a running track, Tennis courts? That'd be awesome. You could fit in a decent cycle track too.

A lido would be the gold star... London fields style would be great. If they are replacing the district heating in the Walworth estate as part of the development there could be economies to be made in using CHP heat to run the pool. I dream...

Perhaps a suitable site could be left for the lido in future, toward the north side of the park where it could be plumbed in as the redevelopment progresses.]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/128736#msg-128736 Wed, 07 Jul 2010 12:31:07 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/128724#msg-128724 forum@london-se1.co.uk (Burgess Park project manager)
The council will be holding consultations to help residents gain an understanding of the long term plans and their impact on the park. Also on the agenda will be the opportunity to explore the options for spending the funding that is currently available.

Everyone is welcome to get involved and attend the following consultations:

8, 10 and 11 July: Meet in the sports centre (Neate Street entrance. Between the astro turf and cricket/rugby areas) for walkabouts of three different routes.

Route 1: Lake and Old Kent road area.
Route 2: Trafalgar avenue to underpass taking in both sides of The Avenue including the sports area.
Route 3: Camberwell road to underpass.

Walkabouts will take place at the following times: 8 July at 6pm to 8pm; 10 and 11 July at 10am and 2pm.

More information on the long term vision for Burgess park can be found here: http://www.southwark.gov.uk/news/article/51/transforming_burgess_park]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/128724#msg-128724 Wed, 07 Jul 2010 09:28:55 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/117531#msg-117531 forum@london-se1.co.uk (Gordon OKR)
http://www.southwark.gov.uk/YourServices/RegenerationSection/burgess/]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/117531#msg-117531 Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:52:40 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/115299#msg-115299 forum@london-se1.co.uk (beetroot) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/115299#msg-115299 Tue, 01 Sep 2009 11:36:22 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/115284#msg-115284 forum@london-se1.co.uk (JayBee) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/115284#msg-115284 Tue, 01 Sep 2009 09:05:59 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/115279#msg-115279 forum@london-se1.co.uk (rexlombardo)
I don't know if this is an official bid document or not (the fact that its suggestions coincidentally add up to £6m suggests that it might be), but i was actually mildly impressed with it.

i think it's right to address the old roads and boundaries of the park first. Make the place feel more self-enclosed and give people the option to wander around the place without those straight 'A' to 'B' paths.

And make it more inviting with nicer entrances. Anyone who gets the bus up old kent road associates it with a weird green metal flower, unfriendly dogs and winos

If it really can be done for £6m, then go for it

Can't be worse than the dump we have now]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/115279#msg-115279 Tue, 01 Sep 2009 07:59:57 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/115110#msg-115110 forum@london-se1.co.uk (beetroot)
Well if [url=http://www.brockwell-lido.com/]Brockwell Lido[/url] can thrive then so can a Burgess one. Jan's paddling pool could be next to it and maintained by the same staff, though I think that should be free.]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/115110#msg-115110 Wed, 26 Aug 2009 17:11:30 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/115099#msg-115099 forum@london-se1.co.uk (Jan the old one)
Perhaps thats the answer a collapsable pool which could water the florwers after a few days! wish I could remember the size and depth now....I used to visit Markeaton Park in derbyshire and when I saw all the children playing in the water felt full of nostalgia for what London children used take for granted...]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/115099#msg-115099 Wed, 26 Aug 2009 13:20:28 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/115008#msg-115008 forum@london-se1.co.uk (carmenes82) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/115008#msg-115008 Mon, 24 Aug 2009 13:37:01 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/115007#msg-115007 forum@london-se1.co.uk (carmenes82) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/115007#msg-115007 Mon, 24 Aug 2009 13:34:02 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/115004#msg-115004 forum@london-se1.co.uk (Janorak) Fantastic water features with well-considered play-furniture catering for older kids as well as toddlers.
The layout enhances the facilities and the result is something quite rare in these parts: an inclusive, enjoyable venue in safe and relaxed surroundings.
This has quickly become my boys' favourite stomping ground despite being a bit of a trek.]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/115004#msg-115004 Mon, 24 Aug 2009 12:51:56 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/114932#msg-114932 forum@london-se1.co.uk (rexlombardo)
is that too much to ask for?

chumleigh gardens used to have a great cafe when that lady with the specs ran it ... now it has too much of the whiff of the council about it - but perhaps it offers more in the way of 'facilities']]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/114932#msg-114932 Sat, 22 Aug 2009 06:31:26 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/114910#msg-114910 forum@london-se1.co.uk (Jan the old one) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/114910#msg-114910 Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:25:53 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/114909#msg-114909 forum@london-se1.co.uk (JulesetJim) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/114909#msg-114909 Fri, 21 Aug 2009 08:58:04 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/114879#msg-114879 forum@london-se1.co.uk (beetroot)
So If any council employee can direct me to the website showing me a flipping external paddling pool...great..and Lambeth have six...sniff sniff...[/quote]

I doubt if they could direst you to their elbow or their arse. Sack the lot of them I say.]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/114879#msg-114879 Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:50:12 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/114873#msg-114873 forum@london-se1.co.uk (Jan the old one)
So If any council employee can direct me to the website showing me a flipping external paddling pool...great..and Lambeth have six...sniff sniff...]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/114873#msg-114873 Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:06:13 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/114871#msg-114871 forum@london-se1.co.uk (Jan the old one) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/114871#msg-114871 Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:46:55 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/114870#msg-114870 forum@london-se1.co.uk (beetroot) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/114870#msg-114870 Thu, 20 Aug 2009 10:31:02 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/114869#msg-114869 forum@london-se1.co.uk (Jan the old one) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/114869#msg-114869 Thu, 20 Aug 2009 10:10:40 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/114826#msg-114826 forum@london-se1.co.uk (NickM)
Comments can also be made via the Burgess Park Fan page on Facebook...I think the Council staff actually do read this.

Current Council plans seem to focus mainly on better paths, entrances and boundaries - all important but with little additional cash likely to come in the next decade given the financial crunch it would be good to have money to support what people actually do in the park as well as making in prettier.

Ideas kicking around include a local BMX group moving in to a specialised track - they are nationally ranked and have outgrown their current base. Also a lot of demand for an adventure playground for older kids - a new toddlers playground is currently being built at Chumleigh gardens. Not sure if BMX track planned is the kind that could also serve as a skate park.

Wierdly enough despite hosting the London Latin Amercian league none of the football pitches in Burgess Park - except for the artifical pitch - is actually managed by the Council. So some proper pitches annd changing rooms would be good additions.

My fantasy investment would be to have a Lido as this would be a great draw to the Park, but probably not within the budget this time....]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/114826#msg-114826 Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:05:34 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/114815#msg-114815 forum@london-se1.co.uk (jonathon)
On the whole though, I think the park would be hugely improved by simply improving the legibility of the entrance points to the park and crossings linking them to the surrounding neighbourhoods before any "councillor-friendly legacy-landmarks" get put in.

I despair of publically funded projects being used to political ends. Sadly, although many small interventions would be a better use o the money these projects tend to get sucked into single big 'events' that don't adequately distribute the benefit to the whole. Its a different scale but for the price of the Millenium Dome we could have buried all overhead power cables across the country. I know which legacy I would have preferred but thats not the way politics works.

I am of course a jaded cynic and will be first to concede my humble pie when its all marvelous and we end up with the Hyde Park of South London...]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/114815#msg-114815 Wed, 19 Aug 2009 09:40:03 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/114806#msg-114806 forum@london-se1.co.uk (Gordon OKR)
Very much needed in this area and very much in demand and so very now.

Burgess Park is huge and there are loads of areas that have been left to go wild which dont necessarily have to be relandscaped why not allocate some areas to allotments?

I for one would be very very happy to be able to grow more than I can on my plant crammed balcony and flat.]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/114806#msg-114806 Tue, 18 Aug 2009 22:44:01 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/114805#msg-114805 forum@london-se1.co.uk (Gordon OKR) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/114805#msg-114805 Tue, 18 Aug 2009 22:21:46 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/114749#msg-114749 forum@london-se1.co.uk (beetroot)
If [url=http://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/view/4043]Whites Grounds skate park[/url] was asked for by local kids and there are people happy to volunteer to maintain it then isn't it a obvious candidate? Looks good too.]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/114749#msg-114749 Mon, 17 Aug 2009 23:36:44 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/114731#msg-114731 forum@london-se1.co.uk (beetroot) How much would a lido cost?

Personally, I'd like a rose garden. They remind me of my parents. It could be social too. I regularly share a bottle of wine with a friend in Leathermarket Gardens, amongst the roses, though if it's designed to be for people to fit it would be better. It could be built on tiers with the rose-beds kind of forming booths of lawn. One, two or three sides could be higher and have benches and climbing roses. It doesn't have to look like a Victorian one. It could be modern.

NickM, have you posted on [url=http://www.se5forum.org/forum/]Camberwell Community Forum[/url]? What about seeing if [url=http://www.peckhamvision.org/wiki/Main_Page]Peckham Vision[/url] could put something up asking for suggestions?]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/114731#msg-114731 Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:51:34 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/114729#msg-114729 forum@london-se1.co.uk (Merlin Rouge) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/114729#msg-114729 Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:23:13 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/114718#msg-114718 forum@london-se1.co.uk (jackie rokotnitz) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/114718#msg-114718 Mon, 17 Aug 2009 14:18:33 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/114697#msg-114697 forum@london-se1.co.uk (Jan the old one) Aand to ensure the paddling pool is covered up when not in use.]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/114692/114697#msg-114697 Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:18:51 +0000