http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/list/1 EN Wed, 31 Mar 2010 09:40:22 +0100 Wed, 31 Mar 2010 09:40:22 +0100 SE1 Discussion Phorum 5.1.6 600 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/123164/124628#msg-124628 forum@london-se1.co.uk (Sidi) So no, it is not only Britain the other countries near by do the same, which is of corse no excuse.
There should be a bigger change in politics, but this is probably another subject.]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/123164/124628#msg-124628 Wed, 31 Mar 2010 09:40:22 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/123164/124615#msg-124615 forum@london-se1.co.uk (darrenm) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/123164/124615#msg-124615 Tue, 30 Mar 2010 21:53:20 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/123164/124614#msg-124614 forum@london-se1.co.uk (Debrajoan) The $64 question is why?]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/123164/124614#msg-124614 Tue, 30 Mar 2010 21:08:06 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/123164/124591#msg-124591 forum@london-se1.co.uk (urbanite) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/123164/124591#msg-124591 Tue, 30 Mar 2010 14:27:52 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/123164/124575#msg-124575 forum@london-se1.co.uk (wjfox2004) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/123164/124575#msg-124575 Tue, 30 Mar 2010 11:04:59 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/123164/124514#msg-124514 forum@london-se1.co.uk (La Martinet)
It is probably quicker to swim across now.

Words fail me...]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/123164/124514#msg-124514 Mon, 29 Mar 2010 12:00:03 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/123164/123333#msg-123333 forum@london-se1.co.uk (La Martinet)
I thank JonR for explaining the vagaries of council finance and contracts, etc. but I still wonder why exceptions cannot be made for certain circumstances and sites.

Ye gods, a year! I'm sure the rest of the world laugh at us. The Romans would have done it quicker, and from scratch!]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/123164/123333#msg-123333 Tue, 02 Mar 2010 17:21:18 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/123164/123332#msg-123332 forum@london-se1.co.uk (James Hatts) [center][img]http://www.london-se1.co.uk/images/100302_waterloobridge.jpg[/img][/center]]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/123164/123332#msg-123332 Tue, 02 Mar 2010 17:09:15 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/123164/123283#msg-123283 forum@london-se1.co.uk (Phil_R) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/123164/123283#msg-123283 Mon, 01 Mar 2010 23:07:55 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/123164/123282#msg-123282 forum@london-se1.co.uk (Phil_R) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/123164/123282#msg-123282 Mon, 01 Mar 2010 23:05:09 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/123164/123214#msg-123214 forum@london-se1.co.uk (James Hatts)
http://www.itv.com/london/waterloo-bridge04935/]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/123164/123214#msg-123214 Sat, 27 Feb 2010 09:35:44 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/123164/123212#msg-123212 forum@london-se1.co.uk (Tolstoy) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/123164/123212#msg-123212 Sat, 27 Feb 2010 09:13:29 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/123164/123210#msg-123210 forum@london-se1.co.uk (Tolstoy)
We apologies for any inconvenience caused. Blame Milton Friedman.]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/123164/123210#msg-123210 Sat, 27 Feb 2010 08:12:58 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/123164/123208#msg-123208 forum@london-se1.co.uk (Debrajoan)

Exasperated of Southwark.[/quote]

This subject was brought up at a dinner party that I attended some months ago.
A civil engineer in attendance explained it like this, "It is all in the costing, a council or body will put a specific job out to tender.
Bloggs and Co. will offer to do the job for let's say £500,000, and says it will take two weeks.
Briggs and Co. tender an estimate of £500,010, but say that they will work around the clock and estimate one week to complete the job."
The job will go to Bloggs because their bill will be £10.00 cheaper, the fact that traffic will be delayed for two weeks instead of just one is of no consequence to the bean counters, they will be content that they have saved the council £10.00.]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/123164/123208#msg-123208 Sat, 27 Feb 2010 00:44:23 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/123164/123165#msg-123165 forum@london-se1.co.uk (JonR) There are restrictions on all road works as to when they're allowed to do work. Generally not during rush hour, or before a certain time am, or after a certain time pm. When doing work on site, the barriers are widened, to give the workers more room, and this causes more traffic congestion, also large vehicles delivering/removing plant, tools, machinery, materiels, etc cause more congestion. These movements are restricted to out of rush hour times.

essentially this means that when the vast majority of people are going past road works, there isn't actually any work being done.

all works require permits. 24 hour working would require overtime payments - yes work would get done quicker, but then gangs would have no work to do between, when one years money runs out, and April 1st, when they start again.
Also with lots or road works happening, your subcontracted gang or workers can't be everywhere at once.

I personally agree that roads should be worked on 24 hours a day if possible, to get stuff done quicker, and reduce the amount of time (no of days) that traffic management is in place, but there are restrictions in place. one of the biggest is the amount of noise you're allowed to make while on site.
(not applicable on Waterloo bridge necessarily)

hope that helps.]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/123164/123165#msg-123165 Fri, 26 Feb 2010 11:11:44 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/123164/123164#msg-123164 forum@london-se1.co.uk (La Martinet)
How can it be that in one of the world's most advanced cities, on one of the main river crossings, that this can be allowed to happen? I suspect that in any other city, a swarm of workers would be brought in to work 24 hours in shifts to get the job done in a matter of days.

Admittedly, I have no idea what they are actually supposed to be doing apart from what looks like resurfacing, but how can it be allowed to take six months or whatever it's meant to?

Incidentally, which council is responsible for the bridge? Or is it a joint affair?

Exasperated of Southwark.]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/123164/123164#msg-123164 Fri, 26 Feb 2010 10:46:20 +0000