http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/list/1 EN Wed, 21 Jul 2010 12:05:57 +0100 Wed, 21 Jul 2010 12:05:57 +0100 SE1 Discussion Phorum 5.1.6 600 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/129340#msg-129340 forum@london-se1.co.uk (chalkey) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/129340#msg-129340 Wed, 21 Jul 2010 12:05:57 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/129338#msg-129338 forum@london-se1.co.uk (boo) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/129338#msg-129338 Wed, 21 Jul 2010 11:15:59 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/129286#msg-129286 forum@london-se1.co.uk (Tolstoy) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/129286#msg-129286 Tue, 20 Jul 2010 07:23:52 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/129277#msg-129277 forum@london-se1.co.uk (goodgirl)
A week later he asked me for money at the bus stop. i said no and that i had seen him before and knew he put it in the arcade. He just walked to the nearest person and asked them.]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/129277#msg-129277 Mon, 19 Jul 2010 21:53:19 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/128928#msg-128928 forum@london-se1.co.uk (boomshake) i popped in the bookies to put a bet on the world cup//

he came in and was watching the guys playing roulette.. stood very close to them..

one of them shouted at him and pushed him away..he was very lucky not to get hit.. i reckon they had had enogh of him as he probably goes in a lot.

he then went on a machine.. dug out 50p..,lost it and went off

i saw him then begging for money.. but more persistently.
the last i saw some kind guy was letting hiim use his phone.. obviously said no cash but if you need to majke a call use this.. and he was ringing a number on a card..

i woiuld call the number in the previous e mail,, but would there be any response at the weekend???]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/128928#msg-128928 Sun, 11 Jul 2010 14:47:32 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/128810#msg-128810 forum@london-se1.co.uk (hetty) - If you want to report a known individual to be monitored - or are unsure who to call - call Natty St Louis on 0207 525 4187
-The Southwark Council number to report anti-social behaviour is 020 7525 5777
-If you see something violent - call 999
-If you see people you feel threatened by call the Safer Neighbourhood Team on 07766 443043

The speakers confirmed there is an increase of individuals, particularly Eastern European males. Reasons include fact that its a legacy of the area, which has a high density of hostels. That areas around stations attract transients. And the current economic problems leaving people who came to work on building sites homeless. Bottom line was its a complex problem and that we shouldn't hesitate to report things. often reporting people, particularly someone who is frequently around (like the Asian man mentioned above) is a help, as they are keen to monitor people.]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/128810#msg-128810 Thu, 08 Jul 2010 20:06:17 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/128749#msg-128749 forum@london-se1.co.uk (KitKat) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/128749#msg-128749 Wed, 07 Jul 2010 17:34:33 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/128742#msg-128742 forum@london-se1.co.uk (boo) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/128742#msg-128742 Wed, 07 Jul 2010 15:59:05 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/128342#msg-128342 forum@london-se1.co.uk (GT) I then saw him in the middle of the day and again accosted for cash, so decided to talk to him as he wasn't threatening looking. He is 22, lives in a homeless hostel and needs cash for takeaway food. He says he gets £120 a fortnight which he says isn't enough.
While I have huge sympatheties for the homeless, this guy is just cruising for trouble and I suggested he talk to the people at the hostel for more support and also Kids Company in Decima St - don't know if he's too old for them but they should be able to refer him?
I don't think he's got a learning disability but hanging around the streets all day asking strangers for cash is bound to affect your thinking and interpersonal skills. Very sad; hope something constructive can be done for him as it seems he is losing goodwill and the local shopkeepers can't be keen on him hassling their customers.[/quote]

Just to add to the above.... whilst on the way home from work drinks last night and after leaving the kebab shop he approached me and asked for money, having ignored him for the previous 3 or 4 weeks I said walk with me and lets chat. During the conversation I found out much of the details Kat has stated above but also he says he has been kicked out of home as his mum has a new man, he also says he was born and brought up here and his english seemed to back this up. I asked what he wanted to do in life and he said he wanted to be a chef, but noone would take him on. I told him to contact local businesses and see if you can do dish washing and see where that leads. Anyways after 15 mins of chat I gave him 3 squid to get himself a cheeseburger and left him with the feeling that I gave him a good pep talk. I then passed him earlier today and he seemed oblivious to the fact we had a long motivational (?!) chat the previous night.... i tried and seemingly failed.]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/128342#msg-128342 Sat, 26 Jun 2010 19:49:15 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/128334#msg-128334 forum@london-se1.co.uk (graham) The Shopkeeper was not entitled to take the law into his own hands, but felt obliged to protect his trade. Different values clashing here, I never eat outdoors, it's just not worth the hassle.]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/128334#msg-128334 Sat, 26 Jun 2010 14:50:03 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/128321#msg-128321 forum@london-se1.co.uk (Auntie Pat) I am surprised at the shenanigans in Bermondsey Square! Isn't there supposed to be some sort of security team?]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/128321#msg-128321 Sat, 26 Jun 2010 00:36:42 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/128320#msg-128320 forum@london-se1.co.uk (Rambling Phil)
So, the count was:
a) asked for cigarettes - twice
b) asked for money for food - once.

I directed the chap who asked for food to the Christian centre near Ufford Road to be told that it had closed for two days. Then I suggested the soup run outside the church at the top of Waterloo Road. Apparently, that's shut for the same two days. What is it with these charities all shutting at the same time? Or was I being lied to?

I can't remember the last time I spent a summer's evening sitting outside a pub on the South Bank and its neighbourhood without being importuned by the indigent, but it doesn't seem to happen north of the river with anything like the same frequency.

It's only anecdotal, but is there a difference in the policing of vagrancy between smart/tourist areas and this side of the river? If so, why?]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/128320#msg-128320 Sat, 26 Jun 2010 00:21:40 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/128317#msg-128317 forum@london-se1.co.uk (SarahElaine7)
Is there anything we can do to get the 'Amusement' place to stop allowing him in? Perhaps this would put an end to some of the activity? I have emailed the Community Support Team who said they would keep an eye out, but there is obviously very little they can do/are doing as he is still around.

This is all very sad and seems out of the blue as I dont ever really feel threatened or accosted in this great part of London- at least not until the last few weeks.]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/128317#msg-128317 Fri, 25 Jun 2010 18:54:38 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/128316#msg-128316 forum@london-se1.co.uk (sharky77) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/128316#msg-128316 Fri, 25 Jun 2010 18:50:36 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/128314#msg-128314 forum@london-se1.co.uk (KitKat) I then saw him in the middle of the day and again accosted for cash, so decided to talk to him as he wasn't threatening looking. He is 22, lives in a homeless hostel and needs cash for takeaway food. He says he gets £120 a fortnight which he says isn't enough.
While I have huge sympatheties for the homeless, this guy is just cruising for trouble and I suggested he talk to the people at the hostel for more support and also Kids Company in Decima St - don't know if he's too old for them but they should be able to refer him?
I don't think he's got a learning disability but hanging around the streets all day asking strangers for cash is bound to affect your thinking and interpersonal skills. Very sad; hope something constructive can be done for him as it seems he is losing goodwill and the local shopkeepers can't be keen on him hassling their customers.]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/128314#msg-128314 Fri, 25 Jun 2010 17:50:35 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/128309#msg-128309 forum@london-se1.co.uk (Pops) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/128309#msg-128309 Fri, 25 Jun 2010 16:28:09 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/128306#msg-128306 forum@london-se1.co.uk (boo) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/128306#msg-128306 Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:35:19 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/128298#msg-128298 forum@london-se1.co.uk (aoibhneas) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/128298#msg-128298 Fri, 25 Jun 2010 12:51:01 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/128296#msg-128296 forum@london-se1.co.uk (Philpotts24)
All nationalities are involved in the begging. The other night a couple of drunks [M&F] bedded down on one of the wooden benches, complete with duvet and cans of strong lager, had sex [though I don't know how!] and then started begging and hassling again! No doubt wanting their post-coital smoke :p

Another large group have taken to frequenting Leathermarket Gardens and speaking/shouting/yelling at each other.

I told them that someone would call the Police, if they kept it up - they thanked me, stroked the dogs and carried on yelling.....

Not the most pleasant aspect of Summer.]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/128296#msg-128296 Fri, 25 Jun 2010 12:35:14 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/128293#msg-128293 forum@london-se1.co.uk (bigphil) unfortunatly for him , he picked the wrong tourist as the guy stood up and punched him square in the month and shouted something that i didnt understand.
its becoming quite an issue around here at the moment and im sure that more of these scenes will occur.

i for one am getting sick of having to police my front tables just to keep the beggers away.]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/128293#msg-128293 Fri, 25 Jun 2010 11:00:16 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/128242#msg-128242 forum@london-se1.co.uk (Auntie Pat) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/128242#msg-128242 Thu, 24 Jun 2010 01:18:37 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/128234#msg-128234 forum@london-se1.co.uk (BenC) me that they will work alongside social services and housing officers to intervene and provide help as required. Let's see what happens.]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/128234#msg-128234 Wed, 23 Jun 2010 21:23:21 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/128229#msg-128229 forum@london-se1.co.uk (James Hatts) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/128229#msg-128229 Wed, 23 Jun 2010 19:59:59 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/128216#msg-128216 forum@london-se1.co.uk (boo)
Let's see what social services would do after Ben contacts them. However, I have a slight suspicion -maybe it's the fact that he's not fluent in English and we've mistaken that as learning difficulties....]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/128216#msg-128216 Wed, 23 Jun 2010 15:41:52 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/128200#msg-128200 forum@london-se1.co.uk (Andrew H) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/128200#msg-128200 Wed, 23 Jun 2010 10:49:34 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/128198#msg-128198 forum@london-se1.co.uk (aoibhneas) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/128198#msg-128198 Wed, 23 Jun 2010 10:31:06 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/128187#msg-128187 forum@london-se1.co.uk (boomshake)
hope he gets some help]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/128187#msg-128187 Wed, 23 Jun 2010 08:50:16 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/128175#msg-128175 forum@london-se1.co.uk (sharky77) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/128175#msg-128175 Tue, 22 Jun 2010 20:30:57 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/128170#msg-128170 forum@london-se1.co.uk (BenC)
Incidentally, for the first time in a while, he's not been around today.]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/128170#msg-128170 Tue, 22 Jun 2010 17:13:51 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/128167#msg-128167 forum@london-se1.co.uk (aoibhneas) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/128059/128167#msg-128167 Tue, 22 Jun 2010 17:07:35 +0100