http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/list/1 EN Fri, 21 Oct 2011 06:54:58 +0100 Fri, 21 Oct 2011 06:54:58 +0100 SE1 Discussion Phorum 5.1.6 600 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/146996#msg-146996 forum@london-se1.co.uk (lullylush) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/146996#msg-146996 Fri, 21 Oct 2011 06:54:58 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/146968#msg-146968 forum@london-se1.co.uk (Julia7239)
The forum has been very quiet on this and its now open!

What do people think? is there hellish noise and disruption?

I went after a boozy lunch on Saturday. Jay Jopling was there. It was very very bright and i walked into the loos thinking they were a gallery. There were a few people in impractical head wear. I didnt like any of the art. BUt great addition to the area! Not a block of new flats! Not an estate agents! Could be exciting or not really? I was slightly underwhelmed and if I was a squlionaire would not purchase anything there. but I suppose the exhibitions will speak for themselves and that is the point.]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/146968#msg-146968 Thu, 20 Oct 2011 10:37:03 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/146696#msg-146696 forum@london-se1.co.uk (orione) The reason for including the alternative to vernissage was to allow those not fluent in French to understand the original purpose.

To illustrate the long standing use of "varnishing day", consider perhaps the Victorian work by George du Maurier....

Www.victorianweb.co.uk/art/illustration/dumaurier/122.html[/quote]

I see. Then my apologies. Chapeau. Le mie scuse. Perdon. :))]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/146696#msg-146696 Wed, 12 Oct 2011 17:48:21 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/146694#msg-146694 forum@london-se1.co.uk (marcusm)
You mean here (there) in your house? :)

It is the actual name internationally used for an artistic opening..

Used often as a second meaning for: free food and drinks.. who cares about the pictures.. :)))[/quote]

The reason for including the alternative to vernissage was to allow those not fluent in French to understand the original purpose.

To illustrate the long standing use of "varnishing day", consider perhaps the Victorian work by George du Maurier....

Www.victorianweb.co.uk/art/illustration/dumaurier/122.html]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/146694#msg-146694 Wed, 12 Oct 2011 17:38:01 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/146693#msg-146693 forum@london-se1.co.uk (marcusm) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/146693#msg-146693 Wed, 12 Oct 2011 17:36:43 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/146675#msg-146675 forum@london-se1.co.uk (Philpotts24)
Enjoy your visit, Orione.]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/146675#msg-146675 Wed, 12 Oct 2011 11:56:39 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/146671#msg-146671 forum@london-se1.co.uk (orione)
Also is there a website for the white cube gallery in Bermondsey where we can follow the events?

PS: Lily Cole ... I have so many undelivered love letters for her... So jealous :))]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/146671#msg-146671 Wed, 12 Oct 2011 09:28:09 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/146660#msg-146660 forum@london-se1.co.uk (Philpotts24) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/146660#msg-146660 Wed, 12 Oct 2011 00:19:38 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/146658#msg-146658 forum@london-se1.co.uk (orione)
Have a google about it. But don't change circles.

On of the many examples.. :)

http://vernissage.tv/blog/]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/146658#msg-146658 Tue, 11 Oct 2011 23:28:22 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/146654#msg-146654 forum@london-se1.co.uk (Lang Rabbie)
Clearly I am mixing in the wrong artistic circles]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/146654#msg-146654 Tue, 11 Oct 2011 22:57:57 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/146653#msg-146653 forum@london-se1.co.uk (orione)
You mean here (there) in your house? :)

It is the actual name internationally used for an artistic opening..

Used often as a second meaning for: free food and drinks.. who cares about the pictures.. :)))]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/146653#msg-146653 Tue, 11 Oct 2011 22:48:49 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/146651#msg-146651 forum@london-se1.co.uk (marcusm) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/146651#msg-146651 Tue, 11 Oct 2011 22:21:08 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/146630#msg-146630 forum@london-se1.co.uk (orione)
I guess we will have years ahead to enjoy that place..

Thank you anyway.]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/146630#msg-146630 Tue, 11 Oct 2011 16:56:11 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/146626#msg-146626 forum@london-se1.co.uk (Philpotts24) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/146626#msg-146626 Tue, 11 Oct 2011 16:47:41 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/146616#msg-146616 forum@london-se1.co.uk (orione)
I cannot find any info on the white cube website, or I did not look carefully

Thank you!]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/146616#msg-146616 Tue, 11 Oct 2011 13:52:07 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/146612#msg-146612 forum@london-se1.co.uk (Philpotts24)
I don't think so, Auntie Beeb.[/quote]

It goes to show that it'll be alright on the night!

I've just walked by the front, and it looks quite splendid - complete with a new tree [always good to see]- after several 'all nighters'. Lots of people inside [Press, I'm told]

Welcome to Bermondsey, White Cube :) [and farewell to early morning wakeups :p]]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/146612#msg-146612 Tue, 11 Oct 2011 12:44:45 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/146284#msg-146284 forum@london-se1.co.uk (therunningman)
Me: So is this really opening in 10 days?

Him: No way mate, this is mental..

Me: How long you been here?

Him: It's my first day and I already want to go home



Take from that what you will..

My money is on it still having an opening party. Too much riding on it not having one. Yet somehow my invite seems to be stuck in the post, despite the fact i have not had a solid nights sleep for the past month due to it..

Grr!]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/146284#msg-146284 Tue, 04 Oct 2011 23:55:55 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/146248#msg-146248 forum@london-se1.co.uk (spych102)
I don't think so, Auntie Beeb.]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/146248#msg-146248 Tue, 04 Oct 2011 19:56:07 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/145937#msg-145937 forum@london-se1.co.uk (James Hatts) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/145937#msg-145937 Wed, 28 Sep 2011 09:28:19 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/145936#msg-145936 forum@london-se1.co.uk (froggy)
Thanks.]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/145936#msg-145936 Wed, 28 Sep 2011 09:25:21 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/145901#msg-145901 forum@london-se1.co.uk (frank peters) You can also get more done if you ignore H&S - take a walk down ROY - no hard hats, no barriers, offloading onto footpaths, hauling with ropes and no barriers, parking on footpaths, working hours directive ignored (hence runningman comments - wait till the massive security night lights are lluminated)
The definition of sustainable is now a major topic - 15 years is not a sustainable solution in terms of materials and energy for this project (as runningman comment comment) - and sustainability cannot just be seen in future proposal - the sustainable community in ROY (social and commercial) is now blighted - hence those who are moving.
As for the future plans - just take a look at modus operandi for WC and project to 15 years - just do your research on developers rather than art.
The new NPPF will soon be adopted and this will be a developers charter.
Not so sure you will have the full 15 years to enjoy it - they may find that a zillion pokey badly designed flats gives a better return and that another London council might welcome a new WC. However, I am sure they will listen to the comments of those who have been supportive of their artistic endeavours !]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/145901#msg-145901 Tue, 27 Sep 2011 13:33:13 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/145874#msg-145874 forum@london-se1.co.uk (therunningman)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/2011/sep/26/white-cube-empire-record-gallery

Yup I reckon they wil be ready on time. They better be. Getting woken every morning by the soothing sounds of drills and hammers. Hope it's for a reason.

Seriously though it's pretty exciting.

WIth regards to back up plan for site mentioned earlier, from what I've learnt I personally don't think there's anything suspicious going on and i'd rather have WC than a zillion pokey badly designed flats any day...

Only shame will be in 15 years once we've all got used to it and it's pulled down. Enjoy it before it goes!

15 years left..]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/145874#msg-145874 Mon, 26 Sep 2011 23:56:38 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/145873#msg-145873 forum@london-se1.co.uk (therunningman)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/2011/sep/26/white-cube-empire-record-gallery

Yup I reckon they wil be ready on time. They better be. Getting woken every morning by the soothing sounds of drills and hammers. Hope it's for a reason.

Seriously though it's pretty exciting.

WIth regards to back up plan for site mentioned earlier, from what I've learnt I personally don't think there's anything suspicious going on and i'd rather have WC than a zillion pokey badly designed flats any day...

Only shame will be in 15 years once we've all got used to it and it's pulled down. Enjoy it before it goes!

15 years left..]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/145873#msg-145873 Mon, 26 Sep 2011 23:56:37 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/145863#msg-145863 forum@london-se1.co.uk (Julia7239)

Cant believe they are opening next month not oct 2012. Looked more like brown dump rather than White cube last week, so must be getting a fit out like a pret or Starbucks. Or just some amazing incentivised builders and project team. An art in itself.]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/145863#msg-145863 Mon, 26 Sep 2011 23:06:40 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/145835#msg-145835 forum@london-se1.co.uk (Philpotts24)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-15063357

Better get our party hats ready!]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/145835#msg-145835 Mon, 26 Sep 2011 17:37:37 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/142440#msg-142440 forum@london-se1.co.uk (orione) On what are your suspicions based? Thank you]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/142440#msg-142440 Fri, 08 Jul 2011 18:14:05 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/142439#msg-142439 forum@london-se1.co.uk (frank peters)
This is purely an example of developers greed in not exercising a low impact sustainable solution because it is cheaper to dessimate ROY rather than house the stuff on what is the largest site around. With the Councils blessing of course. DP9 played a blinder.

I would like to be around to see the comments in 15 years when the site is likely to go for development having now gained access rights but as was pointed out - I don't live there. Far fetched - call me cynical? Research WC and planning. In retrospect Oakmayne may have provided a better alternative for the future.]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/142439#msg-142439 Fri, 08 Jul 2011 17:24:17 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/142438#msg-142438 forum@london-se1.co.uk (shaggy)
Ouch !!!!!]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/142438#msg-142438 Fri, 08 Jul 2011 17:02:23 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/142436#msg-142436 forum@london-se1.co.uk (orione)
Locals get too little attention.
I think that Bermondsey street is becoming too much dedicated to Monday to Friday and 9 to 6 people.

I would like to see life around, art and education. The WC gallery could bring this and bring also lymph to the Fashion Museum and school and other little initiatives in the area.

I said this already but I really would not like ending up living in a good looking dormitory. Please not...]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/142436#msg-142436 Fri, 08 Jul 2011 15:42:12 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/142435#msg-142435 forum@london-se1.co.uk (aoibhneas)
Personally, I'm grateful to Frank, and anyone else, who posts on this forum providing information. Glib comments followed by cute exclaimation marks I can do without. But each to his own.]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/137033/142435#msg-142435 Fri, 08 Jul 2011 14:45:58 +0100