http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/list/1 EN Wed, 12 Oct 2011 14:09:56 +0100 Wed, 12 Oct 2011 14:09:56 +0100 SE1 Discussion Phorum 5.1.6 600 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/146683#msg-146683 forum@london-se1.co.uk (JimExpl)
This will be to discuss their proposals for the redevelopment of the station.

"All Bermondsey residents are warmly invited to come and see the proposals and have your say about the redevelopment plans, ask questions, voice concerns and contribute ideas"

160 Tooley Street, Room G01A
SE1 2QH]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/146683#msg-146683 Wed, 12 Oct 2011 14:09:56 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/144590#msg-144590 forum@london-se1.co.uk (orione) Maybe when the Shard is done the situation will change and there will be more people.

In fact I have an apparently "unrelated" question regarding London Bridge station.

It seems to me that there is a quite high number of serious assoults during the year. Posted on this web regularly.

Anybody has statistics or comparisons with the general situation in London? Is it a hot station for it?

Thank you.]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/144590#msg-144590 Thu, 25 Aug 2011 13:50:32 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/144538#msg-144538 forum@london-se1.co.uk (regenerate) 5 aside football piches?????]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/144538#msg-144538 Wed, 24 Aug 2011 14:29:09 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/144504#msg-144504 forum@london-se1.co.uk (phoney)
[IMG]http://i53.tinypic.com/213jjur.gif[/IMG]]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/144504#msg-144504 Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:56:49 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/143890#msg-143890 forum@london-se1.co.uk (regenerate) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/143890#msg-143890 Tue, 09 Aug 2011 09:42:45 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/143766#msg-143766 forum@london-se1.co.uk (Tolstoy) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/143766#msg-143766 Mon, 08 Aug 2011 18:14:52 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/143757#msg-143757 forum@london-se1.co.uk (regenerate) Actually for a few months this new entrance may look quite nice however I have a feeling the feelgood factor might be short lived as the construction work commences on all sides for the new station! Once the new station is complete only around 30- 40% of the passengers will use this way out as it will essentially become the bus station/ taxi entrance and the route for a proportion of the terminus passengers heading for the City. The majority of the passengers will be emerging in Tooley and St Thomas Street or heading along the ground level mall to the Underground Station. This concourse may end up nearly as empty as these sunday evening shots most of the time?!]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/143757#msg-143757 Mon, 08 Aug 2011 14:49:52 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/143751#msg-143751 forum@london-se1.co.uk (janefs)
I'd started making a list....]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/143751#msg-143751 Mon, 08 Aug 2011 14:09:42 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/143747#msg-143747 forum@london-se1.co.uk (phoney)
You're absolutely right, totally pointless. Did think seeing the station's changing light under the recently completed roof was of minor interest but on reflection.

http://www.siteeyelive.com/monitor/shard/camputer179.jpg]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/143747#msg-143747 Mon, 08 Aug 2011 13:49:39 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/143738#msg-143738 forum@london-se1.co.uk (janefs) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/143738#msg-143738 Mon, 08 Aug 2011 13:17:43 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/143725#msg-143725 forum@london-se1.co.uk (phoney) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/143725#msg-143725 Sun, 07 Aug 2011 23:36:16 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/142550#msg-142550 forum@london-se1.co.uk (regenerate)
http://planningonline.southwarksites.com/planningonline2/AcolNetCGI.exe?ACTION=UNWRAP&RIPNAME=Root.PgeDocs&TheSystemkey=9540800]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/142550#msg-142550 Mon, 11 Jul 2011 11:44:27 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/141910#msg-141910 forum@london-se1.co.uk (regenerate) http://www.tpbennett.com/portfolio/project_profile/188]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/141910#msg-141910 Wed, 29 Jun 2011 12:39:15 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/141905#msg-141905 forum@london-se1.co.uk (James Hatts) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/141905#msg-141905 Wed, 29 Jun 2011 09:50:53 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/140628#msg-140628 forum@london-se1.co.uk (regenerate) http://www.discoverlondonbridge.co.uk/gfx/uploads/pres_24052011140039.pdf]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/140628#msg-140628 Tue, 31 May 2011 10:19:37 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/140252#msg-140252 forum@london-se1.co.uk (Rambling Phil)
BTW I've noticed that the London At War exhibition is going. I don't think I've ever met anyone who's been in. What's it like?]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/140252#msg-140252 Mon, 23 May 2011 20:50:21 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/140035#msg-140035 forum@london-se1.co.uk (orione) Should we formalize a letter or rather speak directly to the people in charge?]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/140035#msg-140035 Thu, 19 May 2011 10:47:10 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/140033#msg-140033 forum@london-se1.co.uk (regenerate) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/140033#msg-140033 Thu, 19 May 2011 09:44:58 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/140029#msg-140029 forum@london-se1.co.uk (orione)
There was a person who raised the point that I wrote on the very previous post, about the solution for St Thomas's street

Could this person contact me as I think we should make sure that this part of the plan is modified.

Putting storages on St Thomas's street is really a dead sentence for that street. And in contrast with what the TFL adviser tried to tell us: that TFL wish to balance the benefits for Tooley and St thomas's street. If high rise building will be built there on the other side, there will be nothing to attract anybody to stop by in that road. And this lack of life will be next door to the Shangri-laa entrance on one hand and Bermondsey Street on the other...

What an odd solution!!


I was actually happy to see how many people agreed on that. Not last a very elegant woman who remarked this point in a very clear fashion. Hope she can read as well this post and we can all start together to push TFL to modify their vision for St Thomas's street.]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/140029#msg-140029 Thu, 19 May 2011 08:40:57 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/139989#msg-139989 forum@london-se1.co.uk (orione)
Most people were questioning on and on the whole design.. in the sense that they thought it was not good enough and it does not protect the listed stuff in the actual station..
I am not an architect but I think that everything is a big improvement to the badly run down station we have a the time.

I agree with you. I had the same feeling. The retail and benefit for the local community is very scarse.
They told me about fast food and offices. It killed my enthusiasm at once.. Again surrounded by fast food and offices... Like BHS doesn’t showcase enough of that c..p.

The design on Tooley street is very bad also.. these are all back windows belonging to inside offices (TFL?). This will create a separation between LB and Bermondsey street as it will stand as a dead section of the street. I think Bermondsey street will suffer for that. No entrances no shops no windows.. just back of offices.

I thought that was a real joke. You have the shard with luxury hotel, tourists, and most of all.. us locals, and what you do? You put burger kings and off licence. I found this outrageous.

Are you part of a group to make something to correct the project?

The design on tooley street is very bad also.. these are all back windiws of inside offices. This will create a separation between LB and Bermondsey street as it will stand as a dead section of the street. No entrances no shops no windows.. just back of offices.

I thought that was a real joke. You have the shard with luxury hotel, tourists, and most of all.. us locals, and what you do? You put burger kings and off licence. I found this outrageous.]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/139989#msg-139989 Wed, 18 May 2011 11:02:09 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/139987#msg-139987 forum@london-se1.co.uk (regenerate) Questions that did not seem to have answers and were -
Why is there so much less space for the public than in the last planning consent? Most of the space seems to be beyond the ticket barrier line and the public route is focussed into the brick tunnel of Stainer Street. Nice new space for the passengers, old brick tunnel for the local pedestrians. Why is there so much less retail than in the previous planning consented scheme. It now seems we are only to get snack bars and coffee shops and the usual station tat rather than the supermarket and high street stores that the original scheme promised.
Why is there no roof over the platforms? It seems such a small addition in the grand scheme of things to join the canopies together and get good passenger protection from the weather rather than simply replicating the current situation but with prettier canopies.
I cannot make the meeting at Globe House tonight but maybe someone could raise these issues with Mr Drabble as I do not see why when they come to apply for planning permission we should accept something that does less for locals, or indeed commuters, than the scheme they already have consent for.
As for the facades issue my vote goes to having something new and confident and expressive of what the station is.
To hide a new space "the size of Wembley" (they keep repeating this as if size alone is a virtue)behind a bunch of fake brick arches and columns when all the brick vaults behind have been removed is plain daft.]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/139987#msg-139987 Wed, 18 May 2011 10:36:09 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/139948#msg-139948 forum@london-se1.co.uk (shiva) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/139948#msg-139948 Tue, 17 May 2011 10:26:26 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/139815#msg-139815 forum@london-se1.co.uk (Scott77)
I could not agree more!

And in this case what is needed the most is some open space outside the station entrance! Whilst I do like the South Eastern Railway Building, in this case, I think its a sacrifice worth making to avoid the chaos that exists outside the current station entrance next to the London Dungeon.]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/139815#msg-139815 Fri, 13 May 2011 19:51:11 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/139808#msg-139808 forum@london-se1.co.uk (phoney) [IMG]http://i54.tinypic.com/2hdw5tf.jpg[/IMG]]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/139808#msg-139808 Fri, 13 May 2011 14:38:36 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/139803#msg-139803 forum@london-se1.co.uk (aoibhneas) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/139803#msg-139803 Fri, 13 May 2011 11:05:32 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/139783#msg-139783 forum@london-se1.co.uk (shiva) WEDNESDAY FORUM

THE FUTURE OF
LONDON BRIDGE STATION
18 May 6.30pm
GLOBE HOUSE

Redevelopment plans for
London Bridge Station

Network Rail Presentation with Chris Drabble ('Senior Sponsor' of the London Bridge Project).

Network Rail have now announced details of their comprehensive re-working of
London Bridge Station.

http://www.networkrailmediacentre.co.uk/Press-Releases/TRANSFORMATION-OF-LONDON-BRIDGE-ANNOUNCED-1722/SearchCategoryID-2.aspx

This is by far the most significant development on the agenda for the area. It has implications for the character of the Bermondsey Village area that are more far-reaching even than those of the Shard. They include important traffic management and heritage issues that will have a profound effect on the character of Tooley St, St Thomas St and a large area south of St Thomas St, including the Bermondsey Street Conservation area.

All welcome


BVAG.NET[/center]]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/139783#msg-139783 Thu, 12 May 2011 13:07:58 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/139309#msg-139309 forum@london-se1.co.uk (JimExpl) Surely at least the frontage could be incorporated into the design?]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/139309#msg-139309 Sat, 30 Apr 2011 22:45:11 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/139202#msg-139202 forum@london-se1.co.uk (AndyABC) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/139202#msg-139202 Tue, 26 Apr 2011 14:17:12 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/139195#msg-139195 forum@london-se1.co.uk (williamn) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/139195#msg-139195 Tue, 26 Apr 2011 12:24:05 +0100 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/139188#msg-139188 forum@london-se1.co.uk (jamesup)
Indeed, the retaining wall for the original (terminating) platforms is to be demolished to make way for the new platforms, so that roof has to come down one way or another (and it's not particularly special).

On the other hand, the not particularly special Arch 4 at Paddington looks stunning now and they were planning to demolish that a few years ago.

The new canopy looks nice, but yes, a roof would be more fitting for a mainline terminus. This is very discreet - not much of an announcement, quite 1950's in a way, which I like, but it's seems to lack the "LOOK! I'm A Railway Station" effect that seems appropriate.]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/139079/139188#msg-139188 Tue, 26 Apr 2011 11:03:04 +0100