http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/list/1 EN Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:59:40 +0000 Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:59:40 +0000 SE1 Discussion Phorum 5.1.6 600 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/33579#msg-33579 forum@london-se1.co.uk (Lang Rabbie)
It was a bit of a disappointment. It has had such a poor paint job over the years that the distinctive cypher is not very sharp at all. I managed to get a poorly focused shot with the camera thing built into my 'phone. Being something of a late adopter on all portable technologies, I now have to work out whether I can e-mail that to myself.

Can anyone think of a pretext (e.g. good pub) for visiting Nunhead Lane to justify seeking out the other one within strolling distance?
]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/33579#msg-33579 Sun, 20 Mar 2005 21:59:40 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30632#msg-30632 forum@london-se1.co.uk (Lang Rabbie)
I've just spent four days in the Irish Republic spotting rare Victorian pillar boxes (now painted green of course!) on practically every corner of small towns in Co Wicklow.

I even photographed a particularly fine Hexagonal Penfold!]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30632#msg-30632 Tue, 25 Jan 2005 20:28:31 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30525#msg-30525 forum@london-se1.co.uk (The Lady Miss Jo Jo) -------------------------------------------------------
> However, the list dates from 1969 and so may not
> be up to date. You may
> wish to contact the Letter Box Study Group -
> their contact details can be
> found on their website www.lbsg.org.
>
> I hope you find this information useful and that
> it helps your discussion."
> ---------------------------


I've had the following reply from the Letter Box Study Group:

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Hello
Glad to hear from you and that you are interested in finding letter boxes.
As a group we have records of locations that are available to members. You can find a membership forms on our website and it is excellent value too

http://www.lbsg.org.

Happy hunting

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It costs £8 to join....
]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30525#msg-30525 Mon, 24 Jan 2005 10:42:04 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30464#msg-30464 forum@london-se1.co.uk (JonR)
(used by Mapmaker when he wanted to start fox hunting in SE1, and was convinced that if he didn't say that he was making a jokish comment people would actually take him seriously - those who have met him will know why! - Tally HO!)]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30464#msg-30464 Fri, 21 Jan 2005 10:57:20 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30461#msg-30461 forum@london-se1.co.uk (Siduhe)
See [url=http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/12413]here[/url] for the definitive list.]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30461#msg-30461 Fri, 21 Jan 2005 10:52:31 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30460#msg-30460 forum@london-se1.co.uk (markandjoan) What on earth is TVFIC? Google list 49 instances, 2 on SE1, the rest seem to be mostly on German web sites, so clearly it's been invented here! UTMUYOA!

(Unfair To Make Up Your Own Acronyms)

Mark
(Made-up Acroynyms Reduce Karma)]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30460#msg-30460 Fri, 21 Jan 2005 10:45:48 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30459#msg-30459 forum@london-se1.co.uk (JonR)
stranger things than this have been done as practical jokes, and hoaxes.]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30459#msg-30459 Fri, 21 Jan 2005 10:35:18 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30450#msg-30450 forum@london-se1.co.uk (Lang Rabbie)
I see two options:

Either (i) We pretend to be one of the Norwood Society's summer walks (details available when the Summer Walks in South London leaflet comes out), dig up the Hermitage Road letterbox while it is surrounded by a group of 40 people , put a coat and hat on it so that it is indistinguishable from one of the stout ladies of South London civic societies, and lug it to a nearby van;

Or (ii) Using the team-working skills developed for cider-making, we spend a weekend learning sand-casting technique to craft a replica letter box in the City Farm's forge. Someone needs to take night classes in locksmithing to create a convincing lock as well! I'm sure my DTP skills run to producing a laminated sheet of colllection times in the style of ten years ago.

We dig a hole, then under cover of darkness, we put the box somewhere near Mandela Way that was affected by major roadworks at the time of the reconstruction of Bricklayers arms.

Once we have an Edward VIII letter box in north Southwark, we plant a false trail of paperwork to give the box provenance (already started with the inaccurate story in "In SE1"). Jon then uses his database access to create a false listed building record as well.

Presto - instant heritage for SE1.

We collect dumped/stolen post from sacks found discarded in the area, lock it in the box and invite the press to see the appalling story of "the post box that time forgot" from which no collections have been made for a decade!

[TVFIC]]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30450#msg-30450 Fri, 21 Jan 2005 00:47:30 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30441#msg-30441 forum@london-se1.co.uk (The Unladylike Ms. Jo) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30441#msg-30441 Thu, 20 Jan 2005 23:08:59 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30439#msg-30439 forum@london-se1.co.uk (markandjoan)
I couldn't resist linking to the Postal heritage Trusts picture on their postbox page (http://www.consignia.com/heritage/english/collections/collections_letterbox.asp) just to add a bit of colour to this discussion, even if there is only one colour that matters - red red red...

Mark]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30439#msg-30439 Thu, 20 Jan 2005 22:54:36 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30437#msg-30437 forum@london-se1.co.uk (harry yanos) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30437#msg-30437 Thu, 20 Jan 2005 22:13:39 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30436#msg-30436 forum@london-se1.co.uk (markandjoan)

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"Thank you for your enquiry regarding the Edward VIII pillar box in London,
SE1. Only 161 pillar boxes were cast during his short reign and although
many have survived, they are uncommon.

We have a list listing all the Edward VIII pillar boxes in England - I
have had a look and unfortunately there does not seem to be one in the SE1
area. However, you will find them in:
SE6 - Crantock Road
SE15 - 62 Nunhead Lane
SE19 - Hermitage Road, Beulah Hill.

However, the list dates from 1969 and so may not be up to date. You may
wish to contact the Letter Box Study Group - their contact details can be
found on their website www.lbsg.org.

I hope you find this information useful and that it helps your discussion."
---------------------------

A courteous and helpful reply - I can't imagine anything could have happened since 1969 to generate more of these if they know how many were made, but never say never...

Their web site is http://www.consignia.com/heritage/english/home/default.asp

Mark.]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30436#msg-30436 Thu, 20 Jan 2005 21:56:50 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30423#msg-30423 forum@london-se1.co.uk (JonR) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30423#msg-30423 Thu, 20 Jan 2005 16:30:44 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30420#msg-30420 forum@london-se1.co.uk (Siduhe)
;-)]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30420#msg-30420 Thu, 20 Jan 2005 15:49:28 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30418#msg-30418 forum@london-se1.co.uk (bmovie) Cheers]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30418#msg-30418 Thu, 20 Jan 2005 15:27:52 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30414#msg-30414 forum@london-se1.co.uk (JonR) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30414#msg-30414 Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:37:01 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30412#msg-30412 forum@london-se1.co.uk (Lang Rabbie) -------------------------------------------------------
> having queried the Listed building service data,
> it would appear that there are only 3 listed
> letter boxes in Greater London. None of which are
> south of the river, and none of which dat from
> after mid 19th Century. So it would appear that
> it is not listed.
>
> I will however attempt a different type of
> search and see what results I get.

The Images of England database of listed buildings gives the largest number of results using "letter box" -but apparently none in any of the three former boroughs comprising modern Southwark!
]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30412#msg-30412 Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:17:58 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30410#msg-30410 forum@london-se1.co.uk (JonR)
I will however attempt a different type of search and see what results I get.]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30410#msg-30410 Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:09:50 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30407#msg-30407 forum@london-se1.co.uk (bmovie) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30407#msg-30407 Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:50:16 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30406#msg-30406 forum@london-se1.co.uk (paulh)
Or at all. :-(


]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30406#msg-30406 Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:35:04 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30403#msg-30403 forum@london-se1.co.uk (JonR) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30403#msg-30403 Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:11:08 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30372#msg-30372 forum@london-se1.co.uk (The Unladylike Ms. Jo) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30372#msg-30372 Wed, 19 Jan 2005 23:14:01 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30353#msg-30353 forum@london-se1.co.uk (Plum) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30353#msg-30353 Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:40:12 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30345#msg-30345 forum@london-se1.co.uk (Lang Rabbie)
We don't have any verifiable statement anywhere in this thread or linked sites that there actually is one in SE1 - all we have is Harry's original post that he had heard there was one "on the South Bank".

An article, which happened to be published in "In SE1" states that there are two in Southwark, but does not give a source other than directing us to the website of the Letter Box Study Group.

From a post I have found in the Greater London Industrial Archaeological Society [url=http://www.glias.org.uk/news/198news.html]Newsletter[/url] in 2002, it appears that one of these could be in Nunhead Lane SE15.

From what I have now discovered of letter box history, and what I know of Southwark's building history, I suspect that the box is close to an area that was new residential development in 1936.

This makes me suspect that if we are to find the letter box in north Southwark, we should concentrate our search on the LCC estates built off Rotherhithe Street in the mid 1930s.

]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30345#msg-30345 Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:16:05 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30331#msg-30331 forum@london-se1.co.uk (The Unladylike Ms. Jo)
I'm getting so curious now. I'll be walking around SE1 oggling all the postboxes.]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30331#msg-30331 Wed, 19 Jan 2005 14:37:20 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30317#msg-30317 forum@london-se1.co.uk (The Lady Miss Jo Jo) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30317#msg-30317 Wed, 19 Jan 2005 12:37:26 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30299#msg-30299 forum@london-se1.co.uk (James Hatts) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30299#msg-30299 Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:51:04 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30298#msg-30298 forum@london-se1.co.uk (Lang Rabbie)
There are no identifiable features in the background.]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30298#msg-30298 Wed, 19 Jan 2005 10:45:56 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30271#msg-30271 forum@london-se1.co.uk (The Unladylike Ms. Jo) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30271#msg-30271 Tue, 18 Jan 2005 22:27:09 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30263#msg-30263 forum@london-se1.co.uk (James Hatts)
The guy in the picture is the presenter, Oliver King.]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/29187/30263#msg-30263 Tue, 18 Jan 2005 20:13:16 +0000