http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/list/1 EN Fri, 19 Mar 2010 15:23:51 +0000 Fri, 19 Mar 2010 15:23:51 +0000 SE1 Discussion Phorum 5.1.6 600 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/124074#msg-124074 forum@london-se1.co.uk (sean@elephant) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/124074#msg-124074 Fri, 19 Mar 2010 15:23:51 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/124073#msg-124073 forum@london-se1.co.uk (real-se1) It still exists. There is a cafe there at present because they can not get the barrels delivered whilst the building work is going on. But once that is done and the deliveries can get in its opening up as normal.
real-se1]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/124073#msg-124073 Fri, 19 Mar 2010 15:21:51 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/124072#msg-124072 forum@london-se1.co.uk (sean@elephant) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/124072#msg-124072 Fri, 19 Mar 2010 15:11:43 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/124071#msg-124071 forum@london-se1.co.uk (real-se1) seems strange to spend over £2m on a flat in a bad area. If they liked night clubs then the MOS would not be putting the spanner in with Eileen house!
I dont think the purchasers realise what they are getting.
real-se1]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/124071#msg-124071 Fri, 19 Mar 2010 14:41:51 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/124070#msg-124070 forum@london-se1.co.uk (urbanite)
As I have said before on here I like this building but have doubts about the location, mainly as its crammed in on a very small footprint next to the railway lines, but this only adds to my caution about it.

That said I hope inside its very nice and lives up to eveyones expectations and proves to provide great homes long into the future.]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/124070#msg-124070 Fri, 19 Mar 2010 14:39:34 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/124069#msg-124069 forum@london-se1.co.uk (n1875574) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/124069#msg-124069 Fri, 19 Mar 2010 14:34:08 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/124068#msg-124068 forum@london-se1.co.uk (real-se1) I just find it very funny how they are going to be living right next door to a night club. I have never seen anyone mention it on this site, so do not know if they realise as it is currently a cafe but is reverting back when the work is finished.
real-se1]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/124068#msg-124068 Fri, 19 Mar 2010 14:32:07 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/124067#msg-124067 forum@london-se1.co.uk (urbanite) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/124067#msg-124067 Fri, 19 Mar 2010 14:26:15 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/124057#msg-124057 forum@london-se1.co.uk (real-se1) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/124057#msg-124057 Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:12:16 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/124055#msg-124055 forum@london-se1.co.uk (hmeah)
Also, how many people living in Southwark, who are first time buyers, earning 35-40k approx. per annum that are interested, reading the articles it seems there are 2 worlds in the apartment block, you have the first time/ part buy part rent buyers in one section (floors 2-10) and the private/buy to let (floors 11-41) on another section, both served by their own dedicated lift (1 for floors 2-10 and 2 for the other floors.


The Times:

The Modernist dream of “streets in the sky” is proudly reclaimed by Black, who compares Strata to “a street turned on its side, with flats at one end and mansions at the other”

I am not so sure now!]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/124055#msg-124055 Fri, 19 Mar 2010 10:55:44 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/124053#msg-124053 forum@london-se1.co.uk (sean@elephant) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/124053#msg-124053 Fri, 19 Mar 2010 10:31:10 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/124047#msg-124047 forum@london-se1.co.uk (Sam@TheElephant)
[url=http://property.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/property/new_homes/article7067417.ece]Times[/url]

[url=http://londonist.com/2010/03/a_tour_round_the_strata_tower.php]Londonist[/url]]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/124047#msg-124047 Thu, 18 Mar 2010 23:51:29 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/124003#msg-124003 forum@london-se1.co.uk (James Hatts) http://es.homesandproperty.co.uk/property_news/articles/elephantandcastletower.html]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/124003#msg-124003 Thu, 18 Mar 2010 09:22:24 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/124001#msg-124001 forum@london-se1.co.uk (sean@elephant) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/124001#msg-124001 Thu, 18 Mar 2010 09:17:52 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/123929#msg-123929 forum@london-se1.co.uk (TimBa) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/123929#msg-123929 Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:11:56 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/123847#msg-123847 forum@london-se1.co.uk (James Hatts) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/123847#msg-123847 Sun, 14 Mar 2010 15:38:25 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/123727#msg-123727 forum@london-se1.co.uk (journo) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/123727#msg-123727 Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:01:53 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/122976#msg-122976 forum@london-se1.co.uk (joh)
But secondly, was also quizzing the price tag @ £255K+ does this sound reasonable for the locality/type of accommodation on offer? what are the potential risks involved in such a purchase ie services charges and what it covers (should i ask for written specifics?) what does the developers guarantee cover etc?

cheers!]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/122976#msg-122976 Mon, 22 Feb 2010 21:39:09 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/122974#msg-122974 forum@london-se1.co.uk (squish)
"The shared ownership flats haven't been sold yet. So, if you are looking at the open market web sites, then they are going to be normal leasehold."

James]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/122974#msg-122974 Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:29:07 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/122972#msg-122972 forum@london-se1.co.uk (graham) thinks?
Rent and service charges, oh yes, and mortgage too!
Thoughts?]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/122972#msg-122972 Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:00:10 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/122939#msg-122939 forum@london-se1.co.uk (joh) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/122939#msg-122939 Mon, 22 Feb 2010 11:14:15 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/122927#msg-122927 forum@london-se1.co.uk (squish)
http://www.familymosaicsales.co.uk/documents/EspritApartmentsBrochure.pdf

James]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/122927#msg-122927 Sun, 21 Feb 2010 23:55:33 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/122926#msg-122926 forum@london-se1.co.uk (squish)
For registering for a shared ownership flat in Strata (which are being called the Espirit Apartments) you can visit the Family Mosaic site for all the details:

http://www.familymosaicsales.co.uk/shared-ownership/property-sales-details/Esprit-Apartments-Elephant-Castle-SE1-6EE-1-bed

James]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/122926#msg-122926 Sun, 21 Feb 2010 23:49:36 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/122913#msg-122913 forum@london-se1.co.uk (joh)
Ok, so was looking into this development ie Strata SE1 with the intention of buying a 1 bed.
I understand that these are lease hold, but are they [i]shared[/i][b][/b] ownership??
if so, what percentage do you actually buy a value of?
What if you decide to buy it as a normal leasehold, is this possible?
the one i was looking at was a 1 bed at £259K

thanks all!
joh]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/122913#msg-122913 Sun, 21 Feb 2010 18:25:12 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/122857#msg-122857 forum@london-se1.co.uk (INDOMIE) I just wished that a building like Castle House which to a certain extent is offering its residents with views over London wouldn't have chosen to build one so close to another tower. It seems just too close to be leaving your curtains open in your Castle House apartment facing it.[/quote]

Now imagine what it must be like for a Draper House resident - having had spectacular views over London for 45 years to then suddenly have to look at a new building at such close proximity.
Ah well, at least if nothing of interest is on on TV one can look out of the window and see what happens in the 400 flats next door![/quote]

true - hence my issue with Multiplex rather. Is Draper House purely residential?

I also wonder what demographics residents of Castle House will consist of.[/quote]

well the first third of the main tower is going to be managed by a housing association so that will be decided by them - as for the private ones, it depends on the proportion of BTL i guess.

really the owners there need to be working with the builders now to get them to help fund a residents group in the building - once they have moved on it will be much harder as residents would need to go through the managing agent to contact people who may not reside on site. would expect huge unpredictability in service charge costs there as the wind turbines are a bit of an unknown so leaseholders should really look to do something now. there seems to be an 'inhabit' page on the website, but no indication of whether there would be an officially recognised resident association.]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/122857#msg-122857 Fri, 19 Feb 2010 14:45:05 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/122827#msg-122827 forum@london-se1.co.uk (graham) SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/122827#msg-122827 Thu, 18 Feb 2010 22:33:42 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/122823#msg-122823 forum@london-se1.co.uk (n1875574) I just wished that a building like Castle House which to a certain extent is offering its residents with views over London wouldn't have chosen to build one so close to another tower. It seems just too close to be leaving your curtains open in your Castle House apartment facing it.[/quote]

Now imagine what it must be like for a Draper House resident - having had spectacular views over London for 45 years to then suddenly have to look at a new building at such close proximity.
Ah well, at least if nothing of interest is on on TV one can look out of the window and see what happens in the 400 flats next door![/quote]

true - hence my issue with Multiplex rather. Is Draper House purely residential?

I also wonder what demographics residents of Castle House will consist of.]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/122823#msg-122823 Thu, 18 Feb 2010 19:22:25 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/122822#msg-122822 forum@london-se1.co.uk (TAK) I just wished that a building like Castle House which to a certain extent is offering its residents with views over London wouldn't have chosen to build one so close to another tower. It seems just too close to be leaving your curtains open in your Castle House apartment facing it.[/quote]

Now imagine what it must be like for a Draper House resident - having had spectacular views over London for 45 years to then suddenly have to look at a new building at such close proximity.
Ah well, at least if nothing of interest is on on TV one can look out of the window and see what happens in the 400 flats next door!]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/122822#msg-122822 Thu, 18 Feb 2010 19:15:43 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/122821#msg-122821 forum@london-se1.co.uk (TAK)
That's precisely what I was trying to say since the start of this thread.....
But hey, too late now. Time to get used to reality and try to live with it!]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/122821#msg-122821 Thu, 18 Feb 2010 19:10:14 +0000 http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/122820#msg-122820 forum@london-se1.co.uk (TAK)
I for one would say it's quite unique and special too.

It's a very distinctive [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Corbusier]'Corbusian'[/url]
building, carefully designed as well as very solid constructed and certainly not built on the cheap as it was the new landmark building back in the day.
The white strips (admittedly not so white right now) are apparently white sicilian marble mosaic - not what you usually would expect from a council block!
Inside, the flats are fantastic, each with a balcony and good sized rooms and extensively glazed areas allowing lots of daylight into the flats.
The communal corridor accessing the flats is super wide and double height with natural daylight. You simply can't get anything like this in any new build these days - thats a fact.

I read it was the tallest residential building in London when completed, but surely would have been overtaken very soon. How funny Strata next door is now the tallest for a couple of months before it will be over taken too.....

I am wondering if Strata got that sort of white and black cladding to tie in with Draper House which is pretty much white and black itself?
Another similarity is the long strip above Strata's front door which in some way is similar to Draper House with it's white strips intersected by the little glass boxes sticking out....

Draper House features in a book written by Herbert Wright, titled:
[url=http://www.amazon.co.uk/London-High-Present-Londons-Skycrapers/dp/0711226954]London High: A Guide to the Past, Present and Future of London's Skyscrapers[/url]

And some further interesting reading on this site:
[url=http://postwarbuildings.com/buildings/the-draper-estate]Postwarbuildings[/url]

Not all that glitters is gold - and vice versa too me thinks.]]> SE1 Discussion http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/65458/122820#msg-122820 Thu, 18 Feb 2010 19:07:52 +0000