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      <title>Re: Metro/Vantage Tower</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/70347/98344#msg-98344</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (Katia)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Gordon, I now understand why they've made them all studio or 1-2 bed flats, they'd have to charge £1.000.000 for a 4 bed...]]></description>
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      <title>Re: Metro/Vantage Tower</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/70347/98340#msg-98340</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (jackie rokotnitz)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Mr. St.George Pidgely whacked up Vantage (against all our protests) and flogged it in a hurry...and now the chickens are coming home to roost. I also see a lot of &quot;flippers&quot; on the web (people who bought off plan to sell on before completing) who are taking a hit. Ah well....dont think Mr. Pidgely will be cancelling his holiday somehow.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 06:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Metro/Vantage Tower</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/70347/98331#msg-98331</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (Gordon OKR)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Full page ad in todays Evening Standard is offering 35% shares (part buy/part rent) of a studio at Vantage valued at £180,000. £20,000 cheaper than thier website price for a studio flat thats 17'7&quot; by 11'6&quot;. I think I might need to lie down for a bit.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Metro/Vantage Tower</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/70347/85189#msg-85189</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (TAK)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I just happened to come across an amazing set of old photographs of the Cornonet / Odeon cinema on flicker:<br />
[url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/oldcinemaphotos/tags/coronetelephantcastle/]Coronet / Odeon Cinema Pictures[/url]]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Metro/Vantage Tower</title>
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      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (Ben)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[It's good to hear some positive comments about the New vantage!!!  But that was a few months ago now.  Does anyone have any new Pictures or further comments as it must be a third of the way finished by now ;-))<br />
<br />
Ben]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Metro/Vantage Tower</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/70347/83003#msg-83003</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (jackie rokotnitz)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[NO it's on this site just scroll down the subjects you'll find it &quot; TFL Torpedos E&amp;C...&quot;]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 12:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Metro/Vantage Tower</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/70347/82982#msg-82982</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (PJ)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Sorry can you direct me to this. Is it on this site or on your own E&amp;C site?]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (jackie rokotnitz)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[But have you looked at the new thread I put up yesterday about TFL torpedoing the E&amp;C programme and demanding that Lend Lease start over?]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 08:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Metro/Vantage Tower</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/70347/82963#msg-82963</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (PJ)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I already have Jackie and you seem to put it down to staff leaving at the council and problems with that organisation.  If that is the case it smacks of mis management on a grand scale and there should be a story there for the press other than bland reassurances that the regeneration is on it's way and no problems.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Metro/Vantage Tower</title>
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      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (jackie rokotnitz)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[PLEASE look at my thread on TFL and the E&amp;C. It explains a lot!]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Metro/Vantage Tower</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/70347/82939#msg-82939</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (PJ)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I feel exactly the same way William but feel powerless to extract any meaningful information about what is happening and what is causing all the delays.  I also am beginning to doubt that the Council run regeneration will happen in any of the ways currently touted.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Metro/Vantage Tower</title>
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      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (williamn)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Yet to [i]Fully[/i] commence? I have seen no evidence of anything happening at all bar the redevelopment of St Marys Churchyard which is already 3 months behind schedule. I'm a great believer in the regeneration but am becomingly inreasingly doubtful as to whether the council run parts of the scheme will happen.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 11:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Metro/Vantage Tower</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/70347/82931#msg-82931</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (se1.relocation)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Whilst admittedly it is disappointing that the works planned by Southwark Council and the E&amp;C Regeneration team are yet to fully commence, the actual regeneration of the Elephant &amp; Castle has certainly already started. The private developers that are already building towers in the area are ahead of the council but their work is a major step in the redevelopment of the area and is not something that is being done in isolation, and should not be regarded as being independent of the regeneration.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 10:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Metro/Vantage Tower</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/70347/82929#msg-82929</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (Zappomatic)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[It looks a bit... cardboard, to me, like some kind of prefab. I know that's the way they build them now, but normally they look a little more sturdy than that.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 10:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Metro/Vantage Tower</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/70347/82928#msg-82928</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (williamn)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[All these sparkly new buildings yet surrounded by an increasingly squalid area, as the regeneration seemingly never starts and no money is spent on the area in the meantime...]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 10:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Metro/Vantage Tower</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/70347/82917#msg-82917</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (se1.relocation)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Looking at the Vantage tower this morning I am most impressed by the quality of the building, which is certainly rising at a staggering rate. <br />
<br />
Whilst a number of the apartments do look extremely close to the Northbound rail lines used by First Capital Connect, the building is certainly in keeping with its neighbour and in my opinion is a strong addition to the Elephant and Castle skyline.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 09:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Metro/Vantage Tower</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/70347/82884#msg-82884</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (williamn)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Its gone up incredibly quickly!]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 14:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Metro/Vantage Tower</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/70347/82883#msg-82883</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (PJ)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I see that the Vantage Tower has now topped out and in my opinion it is looking great!]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 13:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Metro/Vantage Tower</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/70347/82085#msg-82085</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (Luke)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[A photo of progress taken from Heygate this afternoon<br />
<br />
http://www.flickr.com/photos/22814533@N08/2188390900/]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 20:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/70347/82066#msg-82066</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (williamn)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Maybe we should start a separate thread about listing...]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Metro/Vantage Tower</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/70347/82064#msg-82064</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (Lang Rabbie)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[During their &quot;thematic review&quot;, I couldn't even get English Heritage interested in listing the iconic cluster of towers on the Heygate Estate overlooking Kennington Park, which are better preserved than anything at the Elephant.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 19:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (graham)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[We tried over here at Draper House, (2001)<br />
the 20th Century society were 'on board', English Heritage bottled it tho' apparently because it would have affected planning permission for neighbouring buildings. Listing post war public housing is v. rare, not least because of extra costs to Local Authority - your lease holder charges will soar. [url=http://www.ihbc.org.uk/context_archive/65/slabs/buckingham.html]article here[/url]]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 09:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (Perronetonian)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Excuse this tangent, but whilst MCH might be past its chance of being listed, what do you think are the chances of slapping the honour on Perronet House? It's a remarkably well preserved* award-winning residential block with quirky scissor-constructed dual aspect flats.<br />
<br />
<br />
*(Except for the unsympathetic 1980s in-filling around the ground level and the later vomit-hued tiling in the lobby areas)]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 00:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Metro/Vantage Tower</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/70347/81966#msg-81966</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (Lang Rabbie)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[The cinema was demolished in 1988, by the former owners of the site Imry, before Southwark could serve a Building Preservation Notice (which would have had the same effect as listing for a 6 month period while the then Department of the Environment considered whether to list it).<br />
<br />
However, I have a vague idea that St George may have applied for a &quot;Certificate of Immunity from Listing&quot; for Alexander Fleming House before they bought it???]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 13:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/70347/81963#msg-81963</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (Zappomatic)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[If you follow the link to the page about the Odeon you will see a few bits of it. I think there are also some others on Flickr.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 12:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (INDOMIE)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[are there pictures online of mch before it got painted?]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 12:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (williamn)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[You make it sound like they planned the 'horrid' inconvienece store, complete with dog, right from the start!<br />
<br />
Still think they should have just cleaned the concrete rather than paint it though...]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 10:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (jackie rokotnitz)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[None the less, St.G. DID prevent the listing process, so that they could a)paint the place white and b)sell off the base of the South Block for the horrid convenience (not) store with the scary dog which sh*ts everywhere and c)get the chance to put up Vantage. This is well documented.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 07:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (Coffee)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[[quote jackie rokotnitz]Horrible St.George threw a spanner in the works (as only St.George can) to prevent the building being listed in order to do whatever they wanted. And &quot;providing a parking lot&quot; was NOT what they had in mind. They just put a parking lot there to attract the first lot of buyers, they always intended to put another building there.Once the first buyers into MCH had paid up for a nice tree covered parking lot, then St.George immediately put in planning for Vantage. Slimy lot.[/quote]<br />
<br />
I think this a conspiracy theory too far. The cinema was demolished  long St.georges brought Alexander Fleming House and certainly long before it was convereted into flats.  In fact I seem to recall that there was a long delay in the sale of the property because the then freeholder was in dispute with the DHSS over the state of repair of the builing and this had to be settled before it could be sold.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 19:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (PJ)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I bought in Strata and I am increasingly disillusioned with the overall progress on the E&amp;C redevelopment. Nothing concrete seems to have happened since the announcement of the regenration partner.]]></description>
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