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    <pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2003 22:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Security Gates</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/8818/9470#msg-9470</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (Juha)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Southern Forge was recommended here, so I contacted them and realised then, that it was them I had phoned last year as well, when no-one called me back.<br />
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I thought there must have been some weird mistake last year, so decided to give them a second chance. Now I spoke to a gentleman on the phone, who said he would give me a quote for security gates over the phone, if I called back. Did so, and got a quote, even if there was confusion as to whether I had given metric or imperial measures. A visit was arranged for the following day for proper measurements to be taken.  Nobody turned up, all day. Phoned them again the following day, listened somebody arguing on the phone with someone else, while i was waiting. Then a female voice told me there was no entry in their diary of a visit to my place. So she arranged another one for yesterday, AM. And nothing. <br />
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So much for supporting local businesses, or maybe living 5 min away is not local enough for these people. Still looking for security gates...]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2003 22:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Security Gates</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/8818/8968#msg-8968</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (Teresa)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Hi Jan<br />
Obviously not at night!  but I have the advantage of a siesta now!<br />
Teresa]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2003 10:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Security Gates</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/8818/8966#msg-8966</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (jan)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Crikey Teresa - you cant sleep either ! :-)]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2003 05:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Security Gates</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/8818/8965#msg-8965</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (Teresa)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I also live in Council property and I have had a grill door for about the last 8 or 9 years.  I think it is a very good one it has an integral letter box that doesn't interfere with the main door because the letterbox itself stands &quot;proud&quot; of the grill door on the outside.  It is a long letterbox and takes a newspaper standing on its end and  is accessed from the inside, once the wooden door is opened, to retrieve your post.  I am sorry if that sounds complicated but it really isn't.  Also there is a latch opening system from the inside - so that makes for an easy exit.  The leaflet also says it meets with Fire Brigade Recommendations and a patent had been taken out.  From memory it cost just under £300.  It is called 333 and the address was 366 Kingsland Road, E8 , the telephone number was 01 249 8829 and 01 254 1333 but they have moved and I don't know were to.  <br />
Oooh - I just found the brochure - it was pre 1990 - oh dear!  Well it's still in good condition!  I have checked the brochure and I think Triple Three must have been taken over as it is Tital Forge as from 6 May 1990:  the phone number is 081 558 9000: address is Shaftesbury Road, London E10.  Also I have just checked and they have a website <br />
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http://sites.yell.com/passport/goto/titanforgeltd1stcall1/home.html?nat_id=290041&amp;mapable=true.  <br />
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Doesn't time fly - it must have been about 15 years ago!<br />
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Anyway, Henry, I hope this is of use.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2003 03:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Security Gates</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/8818/8948#msg-8948</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (Lang Rabbie)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[If you have the extra cash available, I would strongly recommend Sarah' option of having a door with integral bolts rather than a gate.<br />
<br />
Two cautionary thoughts on gates:<br />
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(i) Make sure that the gate is designed to match your door - many cheap ones have letter box slots at funny heights that make it impossible for the postman to deliver anything larger than a DL sized envelope through your door, requiring you to regularly traipse to the sorting office for anything larger.<br />
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(ii) Make sure that you have a means of escape in the event of fire.   You should consider a key box inside the door.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Security Gates</title>
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      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (Jai)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[ehmm... as I look at my desk, I notice that the person who I inherited the desk from has indeed placed one of those red &quot;panic&quot; buttons on my phone board. Removing it will leave a nasty mark behind, but it's clearly not ideal...<br />
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      <pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2003 07:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Security Gates</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/8818/8943#msg-8943</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (dee)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[yep that's the one-as i say were very good-turned up when they said as well!]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2003 18:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Security Gates</title>
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      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (Curly)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[JRH,<br />
<br />
You should be ashamed of your post.<br />
<br />
As a recent victim of burglary myself, I can fully understand other's postsings on the subject of personal safety and security.<br />
<br />
Maybe you bought one of those pathetic little &quot;panic&quot; buttons to fit over the top of your Escape key on the keyboard - since you find the subject matter such a joke?<br />
<br />
gggrrr...]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2003 00:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Security Gates</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/8818/8924#msg-8924</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (jrhartley)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[If I want to install a panic room, who should I speak to?]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Security Gates</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/8818/8884#msg-8884</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (Henry)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Nicely Dee. Isn't that the place with stables?]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2003 15:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Security Gates</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/8818/8857#msg-8857</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (dee)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[i had window gates fitted by the old southern forge(?) in st james road.<br />
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they were a lot cheaper than other quotes i had and very good-worth getting a quote from<br />
<br />
]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2003 12:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Security Gates</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/8818/8852#msg-8852</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (Sarah O'Connell)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I took some specialist security advice when a flat I rent out had its door kicked in. (My dad used to be CID Commander in this area, so has contacts.)<br />
<br />
I ended up with a really strong hardwood door, a French multi bold system manufactured by someone called Fichet on the lock side (you turn the key and the door is bolted at top bottom and three times in the middle into an integral steer door frame), and what I think is called a London bar on the hinge side which is essentially some metal to strengthen the original frame to prevent the door being jemmied from that side. <br />
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From the outside it looks like an ordinary door, and so does not advertise the fact that the resident is worried. But anyone trying to kick it in would end up with a pretty sore foot, and hopefully would go elsewhere.  <br />
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I don't recall it being extortionate (in the context of preventing a nervous tenant from leaving) and it has impressed prospective tenants.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2003 08:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Security Gates</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/8818/8845#msg-8845</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (Henry)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Thank you Jan, thank you James.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2003 15:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Security Gates</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/8818/8836#msg-8836</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (Jan Lane)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[a small word of caution, they are only as safe as the door frame!<br />
<br />
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      <pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2003 09:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Security Gates</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/8818/8833#msg-8833</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (Juha)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Has anybody used any of those firms that leaflet about security gates? They seem to offer them quite cheap. I've had leaflets from two companies.<br />
<br />
Before last christmas I phoned a shop somewhere around London Bridge, who promised to return with a quote, never heard from them again. I found that shop in Thompsons guide.<br />
<br />
So I also am looking for information on security gates.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2003 23:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Security Gates</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/8818/8831#msg-8831</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (James Hatts)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Worrall's on Great Suffolk Street even have a website:<br />
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<br />
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      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2003 20:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Security Gates</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/8818/8826#msg-8826</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (jane)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[There's a locksmith in Great Suffolk St. that may be able to give you a qoute.They are in the section between Southwark Bridge Rd and Borough High St., in the parade of shops on the right going in the direction of the High St. I used them about 2 years ago but my pea brain cannot recall their name - but they are still there!<br />
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      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2003 18:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Security Gates</title>
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      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (Henry)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Neither really. I just want to feel safe at home.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2003 15:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Security Gates</title>
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      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (Jan Lane)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[lots of people have them - would you lock yourself in? or is to to keep people out? are Tingleys in Brandon Street still there?<br />
<br />
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      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2003 15:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Security Gates</title>
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      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (Henry)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Afternoon all. First time caller, long time listener. I want to put an iron security gate on my front door. Does anyone know of a firm that can help me? I live on Tabards but the housing office don't encourage them because they are considered a risk in the event of a fire.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2003 14:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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