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      <title>Re: E&amp;C: back to the drawing board?</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/89994/137503#msg-137503</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (Merlin Rouge)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[[quote James Hatts]I notice that the new Lend Lease site has now been removed and replaced with a holding message[/quote]<br />
<br />
It's back!! But not much has changed. Each link still opens on a PDF!! Shoddy. <br />
<br />
[url=http://www.elephantandcastle.org.uk/]http://www.elephantandcastle.org.uk/[/url]]]></description>
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      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/89994/136236#msg-136236</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (jackie rokotnitz)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[A far cry from the late-lamented Elephant Links..]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Feb 2011 11:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: E&amp;C: back to the drawing board?</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/89994/136234#msg-136234</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (Merlin Rouge)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[[quote jackie rokotnitz]There seems to be surprisingly little information out there and certainly the residents of the E&amp;C are not being asked to become involved.  I am going to do a tour of the traders today to ask them if they've been brought up to date.[/quote]<br />
<br />
Lendlease is embarking on it's 'consultation' strategy as we speak. The [url=http://southwarknotes.wordpress.com/2009/12/28/introduction/]Southwark Notes[/url] website describes it as thus 'LendLease’s idea of consultation is pretty clueless so far. They seem intent on ‘listening to stakeholders‘ but does that mean that stakeholders will actually have some say in what lands in the LendLease development masterplan? It’s easy to listen. Whether you then take into account what you’ve heard is another thing altogether! They don’t really have to do much more than show, as a legal requirement, that they have done some consultation when they offer up their E+C Masterplan application at the end of 2011'.<br />
<br />
From my understanding of the scope and depth of LL's listening and consultation plan it doesn't extend to much more than a box-ticking exercise with no real serious in-depth commitment to open masterplanning, local representation or looking at ways to open up consultation beyond a few meetings and newsletters.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Feb 2011 11:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: E&amp;C: back to the drawing board?</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/89994/136231#msg-136231</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (graham)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I wonder....]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Feb 2011 10:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: E&amp;C: back to the drawing board?</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/89994/136224#msg-136224</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (jackie rokotnitz)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[There seems to be surprisingly little information out there and certainly the residents of the E&amp;C are not being asked to become involved.  I am going to do a tour of the traders today to ask them if they've been brought up to date.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Feb 2011 08:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: E&amp;C: back to the drawing board?</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/89994/136217#msg-136217</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (Merlin Rouge)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[[quote graham]I wonder how much they paid for the domain name?[/quote]<br />
<br />
They didn't pay a thing. We did, as they took over the name and website from Southwark Council, it's former web maestros.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Feb 2011 00:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: E&amp;C: back to the drawing board?</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/89994/136215#msg-136215</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (James Hatts)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I notice that the new Lend Lease site has now been removed and replaced with a holding message]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2011 23:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: E&amp;C: back to the drawing board?</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/89994/136214#msg-136214</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (graham)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I wonder how much they paid for the domain name?]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2011 23:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: E&amp;C: back to the drawing board?</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/89994/136209#msg-136209</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (Luke)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Thanks James, we can only hope it improves!<br />
<br />
There is an article by Mark Tran about the Heygate and regeneration now on the Guardian's website [url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/feb/07/heygate-estate-demolition-regeneration?INTCMP=SRCH]here[/url].]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2011 21:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: E&amp;C: back to the drawing board?</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/89994/136198#msg-136198</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (James Hatts)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Lend Lease have taken over the E&amp;C regen website from the council - sadly it's a contender for the world's worst website, and breaks every guideline on good practice re accessibility etc.<br />
<br />
http://www.elephantandcastle.org.uk/<br />
<br />
The entirely graphical homepage just leads to a series of text-only PDFs]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2011 16:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: E&amp;C: back to the drawing board?</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/89994/129423#msg-129423</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (sofaeconomist)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Apart from the two smaller block scheduled for demolition by Spring 2011, are we really not going to see the rest of the Heygate come down until 2015 as this blog post suggest? <br />
<br />
http://paulcolemanslondon.blogspot.com/2010/07/is-this-final-kick-in-teeth-for.html]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 10:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: E&amp;C: back to the drawing board?</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/89994/129257#msg-129257</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (James Hatts)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Simon Hughes reacts to the E&amp;C deal (via [url=http://www.yoosk.com/]Yoosk[/url])<br />
<br />
[youtube]vnPGj3LQY2s[/youtube]]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: E&amp;C: back to the drawing board?</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/89994/129071#msg-129071</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (Luke)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Tuesday 20th July is also the date when the E&amp;C regeneration team have arranged a public meeting to discuss the demolition of the Heygate Estate. <br />
<br />
Although this meeting is likely to be largely focused on phase 1 which is on Rodney Rd just off New Kent Road, it will also be a useful place to get information about later phases.<br />
<br />
I believe topics will include the rehousing of the remaining tenants in other Phases, asbestos removal, interim access and uses before development starts (as at Kings Cross), plus what happens to the 450+ trees, the pedestrian routes through the estate, the statutory planning processes that have to be followed, and anything else that people who live near the area raise.<br />
<br />
The meeting is at 7pm in the Heygate T&amp;RA room which is in the buildings behind the estate office on Brandon St on the second level up the ramp from the pedestrian crossing of Rodney Road by Larcom St. More info  [url=http://elephantamenity.wordpress.com/2010/07/13/demolishing-the-heygate-public-meeting-20th-july-2010/]here[/url]]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 07:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: E&amp;C: back to the drawing board?</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/89994/129016#msg-129016</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (James Hatts)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Steve Platts, the council's head of property, will be giving an update on the E&amp;C deal at Borough &amp; Bankside Community Council next Tuesday:<br />
http://www.london-se1.co.uk/whatson/event/9254<br />
<br />
Here's the briefing paper:<br />
http://moderngov.southwarksites.com/mgConvert2PDF.aspx?ID=11185]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 10:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: E&amp;C: back to the drawing board?</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/89994/128777#msg-128777</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (jamesup)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Skimmed the DMRP, the indicative plan is good and the massing model looks great - regular urban blocks, active street fronts, reconnected pedestrian paths, public squares... I'll miss the tall cluster, but its good stuff.<br />
<br />
It's not unlike the pre-Olympic Stratford city master-plan that was sadly lost beneath the Westfield centre.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 09:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: E&amp;C: back to the drawing board?</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/89994/128775#msg-128775</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (Bermondseymum)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[For anyone familiar with legalease, the phrase 'will seek' should ring alarm bells.  I think we can say goodbye to the Clinton award, swimming pool and leisure facilities for a start.  Nothing short of a compulsory 'will' or 'must' in the document will compel LL or anyone else to fulfil what are otherwise, mere aspirations.  Oh, and BTW, if the Council is not now going to receive 'profits' up front, as per Peter John's audio interview, which were due to fund improvment to existing council housing stock under the Decent Homes standard, where [u]does[/u] Labour intend to find the money for that?  Or are we to assume that they will simply let the stock deteriorate even further.  Not much imaginative negotiating in evidence here, I'm afraid.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 08:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: E&amp;C: back to the drawing board?</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/89994/128772#msg-128772</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (James Hatts)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Story here:<br />
http://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/view/4669<br />
<br />
The [url=http://moderngov.southwarksites.com/Published/C00000302/M00003330/AI00008874/$ElephantandCastleRegenerationAgreementandDisposalofAssociatedLandReport.docA.ps.pdf]report to cabinet[/url] is also worth a read, as is the [url=http://moderngov.southwarksites.com/Published/C00000302/M00003330/AI00008874/$ElephantandCastleRegenerationAgreementAppendix6MasterRegenerationPlan.docA.ps.pdf]draft master regeneration plan.[/url]<br />
<br />
Lots to unpack, and still many uncertainties to be resolved, but we certainly know more than we did before. <br />
<br />
I'm sure we'll also hear more about the problems with the deal and the trade-off between financial returns for the council and guaranteed affordable housing.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 07:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (jamesup)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Looking forward to the full report. Exciting times.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 07:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/89994/128758#msg-128758</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (James Hatts)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[So Southwark's cabinet this evening agreed to sign a deal with Lend Lease.<br />
<br />
Quick interview with the council leader: http://boo.fm/b149582<br />
<br />
Full report, including Lib Dem reaction, to follow.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 19:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: E&amp;C: back to the drawing board?</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/89994/127319#msg-127319</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (jackie rokotnitz)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[By the waters of Babylon we sat down and wept...]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 16:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/89994/127311#msg-127311</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (urbanite)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[How pointless has the Liberal council been for the last/wasted 10 years!]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 13:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: E&amp;C: back to the drawing board?</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/89994/127308#msg-127308</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (James Hatts)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Worth noting that it is exactly a decade since a Labour-run Southwark was on the verge of signing a deal for a 15-year regeneration of E&amp;C:<br />
http://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/0600/elephant.html]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 12:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: E&amp;C: back to the drawing board?</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/89994/127021#msg-127021</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (TAK)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Looks like finally some progress starts on the roundabout:<br />
I was notified the gas pipe underneath the road was currently being moved to allow for the future works to revised street layout.<br />
Also noticed the advertisement boards in the middle of the roundabout have been removed over the past couple of days.<br />
<br />
Fingers crossed something is finally happening......]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2010 11:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: E&amp;C: back to the drawing board?</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/89994/126598#msg-126598</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (Neil)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[And how different the post election quote is. Not that there is any reason to be cyncical. No, no reason at all!]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 18:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: E&amp;C: back to the drawing board?</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/89994/126596#msg-126596</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (James Hatts)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Peter Bill writes in today's Standard:<br />
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/markets/article-23834007-its-heavy-going-at-elephant-and-castle.do<br />
<br />
(The pre-election quote from Peter John is taken from this website)]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 17:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: E&amp;C: back to the drawing board?</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/89994/120068#msg-120068</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (jackie rokotnitz)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[OH James, you know me too well....it really is just mind boggling.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 17:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: E&amp;C: back to the drawing board?</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/89994/120066#msg-120066</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (James Hatts)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[An attempt at a write-up of Monday night's scrutiny meeting:<br />
http://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/view/4248<br />
<br />
I'm afraid it's 1750 words but there's some fairly important stuff.<br />
<br />
Jackie will be thrilled that yet another set of consultants have been hired to do an assessment re transport.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 17:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: E&amp;C: back to the drawing board?</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/89994/120061#msg-120061</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (urbanite)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Today's Evening Standard has got a big article on E&amp;C regerneration and Strata. <br />
<br />
Can't find a link to it as yet but will try to have a look again later.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 14:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: E&amp;C: back to the drawing board?</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/89994/119986#msg-119986</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (graham)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Seems like a long time ago.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 19:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: E&amp;C: back to the drawing board?</title>
      <link>http://www.london-se1.co.uk/forum/read/1/89994/119980#msg-119980</link>
      <author>forum@london-se1.co.uk (jackie rokotnitz)</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I too was on three of the Elephant Links committees, and there is nothing here which is new to me - as I said in an earlier posting, the disbanding of the Elephant Links and the sacking of Chris Horne was the nail in the coffin of the project as it was concieved orginally.  I was more than anxious to fight for it, in order that we should NOT have the gentrification which happened on the Isle of Dogs, because the political damage and social ramifications were only too obvious. But there again...who listens to me?]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 15:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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