My situation is not nearly as bad as Zoe's, but I live off Bermondsey Street, and there is definitely a lot of noise at closing time, especially in the warmer weather. People wander slowly along the street on their way home, talking at the top of their lungs and sometimes getting into shouting matches. In summer they will hang out in the park opposite my flat for awhile, having loud conversations. I think anyone who lives anywhere near a pub has similar experiences.
Returning to the original topic for a moment....somewhat frustrating that the consultation paper is a pdf... I don't have a printer. I tend to deal with these things straight away or forgot to do them. Did I miss something - can you complete online or email it?
Crazy stuff. Areas such as the riverside path are completely different to, say, BHS or Long Lane. Whoever thought up this scheme to lump them all into a saturation zone together needs their bumps feeling
Yes, and I'm all in favour of taking licenses away from places which can't control violence on their doorsteps.
If statistics exist which show VAP crime and show a link to specific places, then why aren't the council cracking down on those existing places?
Existing violent behaviour will not be reduced or altered by making it harder for any new places to open.
And if these statistics show VAP hotspots around BHS/Borough tube station, then I struggle to see why that causes the need for a saturation zone which covers a huge and diverse area. The zone stretches from quiet residential streets, to student halls, a major hospital and rail station, and the South Bank. The idea that you can sensibly apply one policy across those very different areas is madness, imho.
i totally agree with you invanhoe. why not look at existing licences in this so called random saturation zone?
we have serious issues on flat iron square/union street, where the local homeless hang out and cause serious nuisance by getting drunk and violent.
i can't believe how the shops on this square can still be able to sell to these guys when there is a such an obvious problem.
the shopkeepers don't care and mostly don't live in the area.
people selling alcohol should be made more responsible. like a bar that refuses a drink to a customer who obviously had too much already.