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Monday 11 May 2009 3.36pm
I got a response today (I don't think they check email very often):

Police are working with Lambeth Council to address anti-social behaviour issues on the Southbank, including 'street trading' and 'gaming'. We have already made a number of arrests in this connection, however, I will pass on your comments to other officers patrolling the Southbank in order that they are also aware of this emerging problem.

Kevin Hyder PS95LX
Bishops Ward Safer Neighbourhood Team
0208-721-2731
Thursday 8 October 2015 6.40pm
It's as bad as ever, Mrs b nearly fell into the road trying to negotiate the crowds around the con men.
I think she's accepted that, that side isn't for crossing. It seems that Boris and co are confident that they will keep them away from the garden bridge, where there's a will...
Thursday 8 October 2015 8.23pm
truthmonkey wrote:
I got a response today (I don't think they check email very often):
Police are working with Lambeth Council to address anti-social behaviour issues on the Southbank, including 'street trading' and 'gaming'. We have already made a number of arrests in this connection, however, I will pass on your comments to other officers patrolling the Southbank in order that they are also aware of this emerging problem.

Kevin Hyder PS95LX
Bishops Ward Safer Neighbourhood Team
0208-721-2731

I wouldn't hold my breath truthmonkey, in my experience there is a wide gulf between the mindset of those who make laws, and those charged with enforcing them.
It's easier to shrug, and look the other way, rather than make work for yourself.
Plus, John Q. Public will ignore laws if it doesn't suit him to follow them.
I know of at least two pubs, and one social club in Bermondsey, where when the last regulars are left in the bar, and the doors are locked, everyone who wants to smoke will just light up and merrily puff away, and screw the no smoking law.
I don't smoke, but it doesn't bother me if others do it, I'm just using that as an example of attitudes toward staying within the law, or breaking it, no one really cares, least of all the Keystone Kops.
Saturday 10 October 2015 3.39pm
They sPolcie swoop down on Westminsetr Bridgeeem to have listened...
Saturday 10 October 2015 4.30pm
Debrajoan wrote:
I know of at least two pubs, and one social club in Bermondsey, where when the last regulars are left in the bar, and the doors are locked, everyone who wants to smoke will just light up and merrily puff away, and screw the no smoking law.

Hardly crime of the century! Not too sure of the intricacies of the legislation, but surely if the doors are locked then the pubs and club cease to become public places in any event?
Saturday 10 October 2015 8.38pm
Gavin Smith wrote:
Debrajoan wrote:
I know of at least two pubs, and one social club in Bermondsey, where when the last regulars are left in the bar, and the doors are locked, everyone who wants to smoke will just light up and merrily puff away, and screw the no smoking law.

Hardly crime of the century! Not too sure of the intricacies of the legislation, but surely if the doors are locked then the pubs and club cease to become public places in any event?

I didn't advocate it as crime of the century, and I too have no idea of the intricacies of the law in that kind of situation.
I was just using it as an example to illustrate that laws are regularly flouted, and that whoever is charged with enforcing said laws will ignore the breaking of them.
A while back, I came out of a restaurant in Charterhouse Square one night with my niece.
We were walking toward Farringdon Street, looking over our shoulders for a black cab, when two policemen suggested we try one of a line of cars waiting outside Fabric, the club.
They weren't even minicabs, they were just unlicensed touts hoping to pull an illegal job, and the policemen steered us in their direction!
We hailed a black cab in Farringdon Street.
Saturday 10 October 2015 11.24pm
Debrajoan wrote:
Gavin Smith wrote:
Debrajoan wrote:
I know of at least two pubs, and one social club in Bermondsey, where when the last regulars are left in the bar, and the doors are locked, everyone who wants to smoke will just light up and merrily puff away, and screw the no smoking law.

Hardly crime of the century! Not too sure of the intricacies of the legislation, but surely if the doors are locked then the pubs and club cease to become public places in any event?

I didn't advocate it as crime of the century, and I too have no idea of the intricacies of the law in that kind of situation.
I was just using it as an example to illustrate that laws are regularly flouted, and that whoever is charged with enforcing said laws will ignore the breaking of them.
A while back, I came out of a restaurant in Charterhouse Square one night with my niece.
We were walking toward Farringdon Street, looking over our shoulders for a black cab, when two policemen suggested we try one of a line of cars waiting outside Fabric, the club.
They weren't even minicabs, they were just unlicensed touts hoping to pull an illegal job, and the policemen steered us in their direction!
We hailed a black cab in Farringdon Street.

Debrajoan, were I not already happily married to the best woman in the world, I would lay a line on you, and mount a campaign that you'd be unable to resist.
You'd be walking in tall cotton, and sipping fine champagne at Oblix at The Shard, as befits a perceptive woman who favours the finest taxi service in the world.
Escorted by a silver fox who knows his way around a wine list, as well as he knows his way around our fair metropolis.
Sunday 11 October 2015 5.08pm
Gavin Smith wrote:
Debrajoan wrote:
I know of at least two pubs, and one social club in Bermondsey, where when the last regulars are left in the bar, and the doors are locked, everyone who wants to smoke will just light up and merrily puff away, and screw the no smoking law.

Hardly crime of the century! Not too sure of the intricacies of the legislation, but surely if the doors are locked then the pubs and club cease to become public places in any event?

No, certainly not crime of the century, and I've been "locked in" too many pubs to complain, or drop a dime to the local constabulary, but even if the no smoking regulations are null and void once the doors are locked, is the selling of alcohol still legal then?
Presumably if the doors were locked, the place wouldn't have a 24 hour licence.
Sunday 11 October 2015 5.18pm
Tom Pepper wrote:
No, certainly not crime of the century, and I've been "locked in" too many pubs to complain, or drop a dime to the local constabulary, but even if the no smoking regulations are null and void once the doors are locked, is the selling of alcohol still legal then?
Presumably if the doors were locked, the place wouldn't have a 24 hour licence.

I should imagine the publican would say that he wasn't selling alcohol and was enjoying a drink with his friends! Of course if he were found to be selling alcohol then he would be breaking the law and acting in breach of his licence. I'm a teetotaller, but the no smoking laws definitely killed off the proper pub game. You can probably tell I'm a smoker!
Sunday 11 October 2015 6.01pm
Gavin Smith wrote:
Tom Pepper wrote:
No, certainly not crime of the century, and I've been "locked in" too many pubs to complain, or drop a dime to the local constabulary, but even if the no smoking regulations are null and void once the doors are locked, is the selling of alcohol still legal then?
Presumably if the doors were locked, the place wouldn't have a 24 hour licence.

I should imagine the publican would say that he wasn't selling alcohol and was enjoying a drink with his friends! Of course if he were found to be selling alcohol then he would be breaking the law and acting in breach of his licence. I'm a teetotaller, but the no smoking laws definitely killed off the proper pub game. You can probably tell I'm a smoker!

A teetotaller? Son of a bitch! You're a better man than me Gunga Din.
We are diametrically opposite, I've slung enough Stolychnya and Absolut down my neck to float a battleship, ( but not while anyone was in the back of the cab), but cigarettes are anathema to me, although I sparked up a few joints in the late sixties and early seventies.
It was de rigeur then, but hand on heart, it did little for me, if I got high back then the blame lay at Pierre Smirnoff's door.
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