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Zoe
Sunday 3 May 2009 1.37pm
I wasn't actually making a moral judgement, just reporting back that the issue had come up at the community council.
Sunday 3 May 2009 5.26pm
Zoe wrote:
The issue of people beggging there, the market and Clink Street came up at the community council last week.
Apparently the police and wardens are taking action on it, but it seems to be one of those things that's challenging to deal with.

"taking action" ...such as??
Zoe
Sunday 3 May 2009 5.54pm
It was about tying people into services such as drug rehab, and something called the life course, which wasn't explained, but from the context seemed to be about reteaching 'life skills' (but I'm happy to be corrected if someone knows better).

The community police seemed to be taking very positive action (though it was them telling us, so I suppose they were probably biased!!), and were realistic about the problem.
Sunday 3 May 2009 6.48pm
life skills? ummm sounds very new labour to me. as for the community coppers ...hardly going to be much of an impact there!
Zoe
Sunday 3 May 2009 8.03pm
That's probably a bit unfair, the community police in Cathedrals and Chaucer have been involved in crack house closures and drug busts, they are proper police you know!! The Cathedrals community officer is the size of a house, you wouldn't want to mess with him.

However the life course does sound a bit New Labour, you're not wrong...but it's probably a worthy thing.
Sunday 3 May 2009 10.24pm
The community officers work with the local community and local agencies . In my experience they are very proative and act on local concerns.
There is no point just moving people on they need support in accessing appropriate agencies to enable them to make changes to their lifes. If a multi agency approach is not used then things will never change.
Sunday 3 May 2009 10.58pm
If we really must have the discussion about begging again (past threads on this subject have made me very depressed as the subject seems to bring out the worst in people) please could it be in another thread.

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Friday 15 May 2009 4.24pm
Portland Wharf is the bit of land on Shad Thames between the restaurant in the vaults of Tower Bridge and the Horsleydown Old Steps. Until recently there were three benches there for public use.

Don't know if anyone else has noticed it but this has now been taken over by the restaurant in The Vault for patrons' use only. I find this absolutely absurd and so took the Corporation of London (it's their land apparently) to task on it.

Apparently, the restaurant has a lease on the land which means they are entitled to deny access to the public/local residents.

I have done some digging and have found that the restaurant was only granted planning permission on the basis that the benches and public access would remain. That was only in April 2005 yet four years on (and no, they haven't made any application to restrict public access) they are trying to slip this in. I have a copy of the planning permission which explicitly states the land is for public use.

I have sent this information to the City of London and have asked that they ensure public access/the benches is/are reinstated asap. Wonder how far I'll get??

I think it is absolutely ridiculous that, as time goes on, public (locals') access to parts of the riverfront is restricted. We were here first, before these posh flats and restaurants, yet we are being sidelined.

BTW - Anchor Wharf (the converted brewery) or whatever it is called had padlocked the gates to Horsleydown Old Steps on the basis that its residents' windows were being targeted by kids throwing that stones. Be that as it may, they have no right to lock the gate to prevent our access. In fairness, however, the security guard acknowledged that the public were entitled to go down there and did offer to unlock the gates.
Friday 15 May 2009 4.25pm
Portland Wharf is the bit of land on Shad Thames between the restaurant in the vaults of Tower Bridge and the Horsleydown Old Steps. Until recently there were three benches there for public use.

Don't know if anyone else has noticed it but this has now been taken over by the restaurant in The Vault for patrons' use only. I find this absolutely absurd and so took the Corporation of London (it's their land apparently) to task on it.

Apparently, the restaurant has a lease on the land which means they are entitled to deny access to the public/local residents.

I have done some digging and have found that the restaurant was only granted planning permission on the basis that the benches and public access would remain. That was only in April 2005 yet four years on (and no, they haven't made any application to restrict public access) they are trying to slip this in. I have a copy of the planning permission which explicitly states the land is for public use.

I have sent this information to the City of London and have asked that they ensure public access/the benches is/are reinstated asap. Wonder how far I'll get??

I think it is absolutely ridiculous that, as time goes on, public (locals') access to parts of the riverfront is restricted. We were here first, before these posh flats and restaurants, yet we are being sidelined.

BTW - Anchor Wharf (the converted brewery) or whatever it is called had padlocked the gates to Horsleydown Old Steps on the basis that its residents' windows were being targeted by kids throwing that stones. Be that as it may, they have no right to lock the gate to prevent our access. In fairness, however, the security guard acknowledged that the public were entitled to go down there and did offer to unlock the gates
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