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Sunday 4 October 2009 2.14pm
Surely police time could be better spent.
Believe it or not...
At a ward panel meeting the problem of adverts for prostitutes was voted as 'a priority'. The police patrolled the area and removed all the cards but amazingly they soon reappeared, 'but never when we were about'. So the police set up a plain clothes undercover operation.

Chaucer Team Autumn/Winter 2009 leaflet through the lettebox today.

We work towards priorities set by you, the public.
You said,"We're fed up with prostitution being advertised in the phone boxes"
Many of you rang in complaining of adverts appearing in phone boxes in an around Borough High Street. The team worked in plain clothes and observed the phone boxes from a number of locations. After much anticipation and patience we caught someone carding them. This person was arrested and cautioned.
A few weeks later we set up another operation and another person was caught doing the same and also arrested. Having previously being cautioned this person was taken to court and received a prison sentence.

Well it's nice to know the police are responding to the NUMBER1 complaint from the public
Sunday 4 October 2009 5.12pm
Well what else are they going to do with their time? Come out when burgled properties are left insecure? Respond to assaults and muggings? I doubt it.

Anyway I'd rather they were doing that than beating innocent people up.
Sunday 4 October 2009 8.46pm
I'm a bit confused, surely we want the police to respond to local concerns.

It might not be something that worries us all, but if you think it's wrong you should probably go to the police panel and raise what it is that you'd like them to concentrate on, as I'm pretty sure that anyone is allowed to attend.
Sunday 4 October 2009 9.10pm
Suppose it depends how you feel if you called 999 and they didnt arrive because they are busy watching out for advertisers at phone boxes. I called 999 a few weeks ago, they didnt arrive and then called at 3am to tell me they have a call outstanding at my address. Bit late now, the kids have gone after destroying the intercom to get into the block.
Sunday 4 October 2009 9.39pm
But this is the community police team, they don't do 999 calls they do community work, and they are meant to respond to local concerns, which in this case is porn cards.
Monday 5 October 2009 1.38am
Well ok maybe it's different. Are they paid less for less dangerous stuff? That doesn't seem like a bad idea if they are. Which police would stop cars running red lights, or stopping on pedestrian crossings like they don't exist? Obviously not the police I see watching this sort of thing and doing nothing. That sort of driver behaviour kills people in my community. Can I ask for that to be stopped?
Monday 5 October 2009 10.29am
beetroot wrote:
Can I ask for that to be stopped?

Apparently you can by attending the ward panel meetings. I also think that policing adverts in phone boxes is almost a complete waste of time. But I'm never going to sacrifice the time to attend a ward panel meeting so the police are never going to know my views on this. Maybe there are better ways to consult with people? Or maybe they should sanity-check the suggestions they do get from ward panel meetings? Or maybe I should be more public-spirited and attend the odd meeting?
Monday 5 October 2009 10.37am
Apparently safer neighbourhoods teams in Westminster are trialling 'virtual ward panels' as a response to the difficulty of getting a decent number of people together in the same room at the same time.

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Monday 5 October 2009 1.47pm
Beetroot you've continually bleated on about the 'Failure' of the MPS. Quite frankly it's all rather boring and despite your apparently sincerely held beliefs that it's all going 'tits up' I'm yet to see any evidence that you're doing anything positive... You just moan...

If you see a Police vehicle parked inappropriately then I suggest you report it, police drivers have to follow the rules just like anyone else -- unless of course there is an operational necessity. After all you wouldn't want them turning up late to your 999 call because they had look for a parking space!

For your information many people find the sight of prostitution carding highly offensive, it damages public confidence and heightens a fear of crime amongst certain sections of the community. If you visit the City of London, you'll note that the phone boxes there are practically all free of such cards and that's because of a concerted effort on the part of City Police in reply to community concerns. It's not because of a shortage of customers with cash!

In fact it seems they're having a meeting:

26/10/2009 - 19:00 - 21:00 - Public meeting - Southwark Police Station Ward panel

Why dont you pop along and let them know your views? I'm sure we'd all be interested to hear how you get along.
Monday 5 October 2009 2.01pm
I sincerely doubt whether carding in phone boxes (do we HAVE any phone boxes anymore? I can't think where the nearest one to me is) would be in the top 100 complaints if there was anything like a representative survey of all residents.

However, I can believe that if only two people show up for one of these meetings, and they both say that their top concern is cards in phone boxes, that will make it the No. 1 concern voiced to the meeting.

And the idea that there are undercover officers staking out phone boxes and thinking for a second that this is a sensible priority is laughable.

...if you press it, they will come.
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