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Monday 29 March 2004 2.17pm
And have you read the ingredients?
My bet they'll be packed full of crap and chemicals to make them taste like Grannies - nothing to do with the actual taste of the meat!
The majority of packed food has its tastes simulated by chemicals in a lab. So in fact you're eating the worst possible grade meat and veg regardless of what the boxes say - think Bernard Matthews.

And yes I agree its a travesty that its cheaper to go to Iceland or even worse, Lidl. Unfortunately, people are now exceedingly lazy and prefer to zap a packaged meal in a microwave (even more badness to you already unnutritious food) and watch tv rather than cook. Also, parents (or schools now with the abolishment of Home Ec) aren't passing cooking skills down to their children so the vicious circle continues.

But the biggest problem, I think is that people have this perception that everyone who lives in London is made of money (when we're blatantly not) and therefore the cost of living is that much more expensive. I know people's feelings about Borough market, but I must say that if you shop around and are aware of the prices then you don't get stung. We have spent significantly less shopping there than shopping Elephant Tescos and Sainsbury's where they rob you blind. And the quality has been far better, although I am going to try the Peckham farmers market seeing as its only down the road... thanks for the tip.
Monday 5 April 2004 2.14pm
Won't hear a word said against Lidl! Actually, I'm only prepared to defend them because of their Bratwurst (and maybe their tinned herring) but in this area they beat Waitrose hands down. And there's nowhere else in town that I know that replicates that old GDR shopping experience so well.

And while I'm on the subject, what exactly IS so special about Waitrose? I was in one today and it seemed like any other supermarket but with wider aisles. THey still sell a lot of processed and packaged foods full of salt, fats and strange chemicals to keep them "fresh". Support your local green grocers, butchers and fishmongers!
Monday 5 April 2004 2.37pm
What's the issue with Borough market ?

Had a quick wander around there this w/e and it all seemed an ideal place to buy my fruit, veg, meat and fish.

Am I missing something ? Is it hideously expensive ? Dubious quality ? Plagued with pickpockets ?

What ?
rm
Monday 5 April 2004 2.46pm
Its slightly more expensive than your average value range at the supermarket.

But much tastier....... and much better for the economy!
Monday 5 April 2004 2.46pm

G00se

Borough Market is fantastic, but also fantastically expensive if you are not too careful.

We are a victim of it's success as when it started it was a way for farmers to access the local London market and get retail prices from the end user, whereas now they access the tourist/leisure market at tourist prices. You can't blame them, although I think the "support your poor downtrodden farmer" arguement for standholders at Borough Market is a bit dubious!

That being said, the Dartmoor beef stand, Poole crab stand and sylubub stands are all particularly good in my opinion.

Regards,

Loafer
Monday 5 April 2004 2.48pm
If you live near Tower Bridge Rd then you should try the fruit and veg stall outside Woods the Butchers. It's fab and much cheaper than any supermarket. Generally the quality, taste etc. seems better too. I'd love to know more about the origin of their stuff but it can't be any worse than the third world exploitation that goes on at Tesco et all. Of course there's always Co-op down the Blue if you want to avoid that sort of thing.

Wood's meat's good too and they used to do fresh fish but it seemed that there was no demand. Shame, because at one point you could buy fresh lobsters on Tower Bridge Rd.
Monday 5 April 2004 2.54pm
Mr B, Loafer & RM -
Great info. Nice 1, fellas !
Would actually prefer to do the buy-it-local thing and can well understand the price inflation by the stall holders to rid the tourists of a few more dollars ! Sounds like this F&V place near Woods is a good compromise.
I shall have a wander tonight.
Monday 5 April 2004 3.30pm
Mr Bridger,

People find Waitrose special because the products tend to be of higher quality than many other supermarkets, or better value for money. They also stock many products to rival specialist retailers, plus store standards and customer service tends to be superior. Also they are famed for their relationship with their suppliers: for example, they are the only British supermarket to support downtrodden independent Caribbean banana growers, whereas most others simply take the cheaper option of dealing soley with the American mega-corporations such as Dole, who grow in South America.

Plus where appropriate local produce is sold. The same processed, packaged foods packed with salt and preservatives are available simply because there is a demand for them. What kind of supermarket wouldn't sell products less demanding customers want?

I do find Lidl smoked salmon to be much better than similarly priced rubbish sold in Tesco.
rm
Monday 5 April 2004 3.35pm
Waitrose may be better quality but better value for money - no way!!

The branded stuff (such as washing powder) is much more expensive for example......

"where appropriate local produce is sold". Being originally from Kent where Waitrose was our nearest supermarket they did NOT sell Kent apples!!

So.... it leads to the question, appropriate for who?
Sue
Monday 5 April 2004 4.05pm
Don't buy washing powder - get those balls full of something, sodium carbonate? that you put on top of the washing in the machine. They do about 100 washes and you don't have to buy washing powder or conditioner. I admit to getting mine from QVC on the telly, but I am sure you can buy them from somewhere. I live in a small flat, and not having to have masses of detergent tabs plus conditioners leaves more space.
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