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Monday 4 July 2011 5.13pm
There are 2 "drop in sessions" coming up for folks in the Shad Thames area.

The sessions cover the proposed use of St John's Playground and a new proposal, which will affect folks in Maguire Street. The letter I received states that the Maguire proposal would "involve significant engineering works" on that road.

From the tone of the letter - it appears that the Playground idea may be scrapped in favour of the Maguire Street option.

Drop in sessions as follows: Beormund Community Centre - 8th July (12 noon - 7pm) and 9th July (12 noon - 5pm)
Monday 4 July 2011 9.10pm
saveurriverside wrote:
Sir Patrick Stewart OBE has signed our petition objecting to Chambers Wharf being used as a construction site for Thames Water's super sewer.
We don't want a super sewer site in Chambers Wharf or King's Stairs Gardens. Our objective is to put pressure on Thames Water to use non residential sites for their super sewer construction.

Please support us by signing our petition to call on Thames Water to find non-residential alternatives to Chambers Wharf.

pardon my ignorance perhaps, but Chambers Wharf isn't residential? It was a big ugly cold store so why not utilise it for a facility that appears to be necessary and doesn't displace existing homes or leisure areas. There's going to be some construction and inconvenience admittedly but any site will result in this.
Tuesday 5 July 2011 10.16am
Chambers Wharf is surrounded by residential homes, i think that makes it residential, living close by there, i don't really want 24/7 building construction for countless years (who does eh)it all feels a bit 'up in the air' at present which means that people wanting to move away might have to deal with reduction in price of property (who wants to move near to a potential sewer thing?)
Tuesday 5 July 2011 6.15pm
the whole area is pretty much residential so a compromise needs to be found. I still think Chambers Wharf is a better prospect than Kings Stairs or St Johns/Druid Street. At least it's on the river so presumably closer to the problem the project is designed to fix. I'd prefer no supersewer, but what is the alternative?
Tuesday 5 July 2011 7.18pm
There is a lot of spin from Thames Water on this issue, telling London that this is the only solution to a problem posed by a European directive.

The truth is that a "super sewer" that is bigger than the channel tunnel is not necessary and more than enough can be achieved with a shorter tunnel and other sustainable solutions to take care of the surface water run off. Oh yes and this alternative solution is cheaper too.

At a cost of 3.6b and rising - leading by the way to potentially a permanent 20% increase in the water bill of *every* Thames Water user (yes you read that right, everyone from Kent to the Cotswolds will pay this private company for the privilige of doing this and then not owning it after) - Thames Water certainly have a huge budget to spend on publicity and can run rough over local communities, whose concerns can only be raised by small groups of campaigners.

So for 7 years and 24x7 for a lot of it there will be comings and goings, noise etc.... As to the merits of Kings Stairs over Chambers Wharf, they are both awful choices. KSG is a small park (over the road from another park though), CW is with 400m of 3 schools and many many people's homes (and yes it looks derelict now). CW was supposed to be turned into the most eco friendly development in London (play areas, wind turnbines and ironically sustainable waste water management to boot) by 2013. Now that area would be lucky to see the end of construction by 2025. And so the regeneration of the riverside will wait for another decade or more.

Thames Water would have you believe that spending an as yet unknown amount of money (the costs have almost doubled since the first estimates and will surely go up again), is the only solution. If you are interested, do a little research yourself - why not start here:

As you can see Southwark Council agree with other London Councils and MPs from both inside and outside central London.

Even if this monsterous program were to go ahead, there are other true, viable, industrial sites away from green, populated areas with schools that they could use. Thames Water has a lot of money invested in making this scheme happen and will spin it any way they can to make it seem like a done deal and value for money.

I leave it to the reader.

If you agree, why not sign a few petitions, start with Chambers Wharf and work your way down the Thames, help other communities avoid this blight and force Thames Water to confront the reality that other schemes are more appropriate for the times we live in and better for the environment.
Saturday 12 November 2011 3.43pm
Hmm...quite concerned about this, got a glossy pamphlet delivered about this today. I live in Tamarind Court next to the pumping station which is one of the proposed sites. Several years of disruption, and presumably a huge drop in property values if I wanted to move during that period :/
Thursday 26 January 2012 12.06pm
Last night's council assembly spent a long time talking about the super sewer:

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Thursday 26 January 2012 2.57pm
In brief Southwark Council has voted 100% to back the local Save Your Riverside campaign ( against the use of Chambers Wharf. They are re-enforcing their earlier stance re Kings Stairs Gardens and have called on Simon Hughes MP to get off the fence and back the position.
Thursday 26 January 2012 8.58pm
pasm wrote:
In brief Southwark Council has voted 100% to back the local Save Your Riverside campaign ( against the use of Chambers Wharf. They are re-enforcing their earlier stance re Kings Stairs Gardens and have called on Simon Hughes MP to get off the fence and back the position.

Is "" also opposed to using Kings Stairs Gardens? Their website seems very Chambers Wharf centric. If there has to be a super-sewer, then derelict land seems a better alternative to one of the few parks in our area...and on our riverside!
Friday 27 January 2012 12.16am
1) Southwark Council opposes use of KSG for the Super-Sewer just as much as Chambers Wharf.

2) There are two schools right by CW. How this can be considered a good location for the Super-Sewer with its 100,000+ lorry journey over 6 years is beyond belief?!

3) Save Your Riverside does not advocate a simple displacement of the issue onto someone else's patch. They have painstakingly researched sensible alternatives that would make everyone better off - save perhaps for Australian investment bank Macquarie, principal shareholder of Thames Water.
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