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Monday 13 June 2011 11.11pm
From the 2004 council document referred to by ano trader on Saturday, ie http://bit.ly/ls1NeS , it appears the primary electorate for the trustees is precisely a dozen strong: the "appointments are made on the nomination of the Ward Councillors for Wards covering St Saviour’s parish as it existed in 1930 (Currently, Cathedrals, Chaucer, Grange and Riverside Wards)". Each has three sitting councillors (total 11 Lib Dem and one Labour, for what it's worth).

They put names forward on the basis of nominations received - after existing trustees have apparently been invited to comment on the candidates' merits! The list (of five then, but eight or nine now?) goes to the full council but the assembly can only approve or reject - in which latter case it looks like the top of the reserves list gets drafted in.

A number of other nuggets in there too, such as about the removal of the residence requirement.
Monday 13 June 2011 11.30pm
At that time the trustees were appointed only for a year. Southwark thought that was too short. Does anyone know what the cycle might've changed to? When are these - NB voluntary, unpaid! - posts next up for grabs?
Tuesday 14 June 2011 12.22am
Pieces of Eight, your arguments are so sharp and well articulated.
I surrender to the power of confidence in speech you finely bring forward.
Yet you find it difficult to read between the lines…
My “melodrama” as you called it (so melodramatically!!), was intended to simply address the fact that 120 traders that I guess have done nothing terrible to you, or me,… still depend on BM and ultimately on customers like you and me.
As well as the seven excluded, they bring forward an honest work, therefore the bad management of the trustees should not be confounded with the mission of the traders, still working hard at BM.
By boycotting the Market you “kill” their business. Not in a melodramatic sense as you took it. In the real one.
Is it still obscure?
Here lies Sir de la Palice: If he wasn’t dead, he would still be alive.
If you understand this, than you understand what I am saying.

The way to aim to the management is to address the top directly, not only by writing in this thread from your chair, but rather by going there and talking to them and to engage with the traders still there. Show your presence there do not hide and make a difference.

Talking about melodrama, you lines about Taleban and Afghanistan…. I mean seriously man?.. again, search between the lines and take it easy: hero was a metaphor… just to address the way the whole thing is being conducted, forgetfully of those many still involved and depending on BM.

We don’t want to go into the: “What is a man, Mr Lebowski?”
For example, I find Your discourse is not only melodramatic but also very cynical at times..

But of course you will have so many arguments tailored “ad hoc” to beat each line of my post that I better stop here.

As Voltaire used to say: the problem with democracy (as you mention it so often) is that really everyone can say their opinion.. even me and you. In this case you are amongst those who think accordingly (maybe) so strangely you feel in possession of a certain valuable truth.. Good for you.

Write to the management and get an appointment. Talk to them and to the traders. Form a group out of this tread to support the traders there at BM and to secure the future of the market as it is central part of Southwark history. Campaign outside and ask for support of local authorities. Involve journalists. Make it positive.
I believe this is the only sensible thing to do at present.

My humble opinion.
Tuesday 14 June 2011 12.43am
Sometimes it sounds as if BM were the promised land. I'd hate to love it as an atmospheric part of my shopping experience, but from a practical point of view, I have options, and could have even more if more current BM traders decided to jump ship and start trading at BS or MS. Is that an option that would satisfy both traders and local shoppers?
Tuesday 14 June 2011 10.27am
Boroman wrote:
From the 2004 council document referred to by ano trader on Saturday, ie http://bit.ly/ls1NeS , it appears the primary electorate for the trustees is precisely a dozen strong: the "appointments are made on the nomination of the Ward Councillors for Wards covering St Saviour’s parish as it existed in 1930 (Currently, Cathedrals, Chaucer, Grange and Riverside Wards)". Each has three sitting councillors (total 11 Lib Dem and one Labour, for what it's worth).
They put names forward on the basis of nominations received - after existing trustees have apparently been invited to comment on the candidates' merits! The list (of five then, but eight or nine now?) goes to the full council but the assembly can only approve or reject - in which latter case it looks like the top of the reserves list gets drafted in.

A number of other nuggets in there too, such as about the removal of the residence requirement.

Interesting that Renate Reichanbach has a very strong connection with First Class Partnerships, the railway company that the incumbent head trustee heads up.

About Renate Reichenbach
Renate holds a European Management Masters Degree from
the University de Louvain-La Neuve in Brussels, and a degree
from the Vienna University of Economics and Business
Administration. Fluent in three languages, she has established
a reputation as a highly accomplished business analyst and
project manager with experience of working with some of the
biggest names in the financial services world. She specialises
in cost-economics, investment appraisal and transactional
project management. Since becoming an Associate of FCP,
Renate has been assigned to Eurostar UK where she is
providing programme and project management for the
complex management re-alignment that will bring together
the three operators into a single management entity.
[i][/i]

Is this his wife? It makes me a little uncomfortable that there has been a strong Financial services presence on the board for quite a while now, particularly one with such a deep grained involvement in the railway industry.

Any thoughts on this anyone?
Tuesday 14 June 2011 12.50pm
RENATE worked with us NIGHT AND DAY a few years ago on the wholesale ,! and did a days retail with myself and anouther !was this research I wonder,just to confirm im talking about the correct person has she got twins ?
Tuesday 14 June 2011 2.16pm
Renate was a trustee for a short while before heading off to her native Austria, where she lives bringing up 2 chilren - the father of whom is indeed Chairman Wilkinson. Her view was very similar to that currently being espoused by the management regarding the need to remove hot food from the market, as she saw this as diluting what she felt should be purely a fresh food focus.

The problem with this rather "Germanic" view of purity, is that it didn't bear any reality to how the market had developed, was currently trading, and also ignored the varied customer base on different days of the week visiting the market. You cannot ignore the fact that Borough Market is a Central London market, located in a primarily commercial area, cut off to the north by a river, and in the centre of the Capital City. In addition, it also has an international reputation that is going to continue to attract tourists whether you like it or not.

To listen to Messrs Wilkinson, Reagan and McGibbon et al,they would have us believe that the Market has been going down hill for a decade, which is complete nonsense. Frankly, the more I hear from them, you would have to believe that Charlie Sheene was about to join the Salvation Army to take them seriously.

There has always been a debate over hot food, but it is really simply a matter of balance, not of principle in the way Renate put it. So what about the promised "Vision"?. I think we will know pretty soon, because there have already been some pointers - it doesn't include a traditional wholesale fruit & vegetable market for example. The next test will be the future of Maria's cafe, a local facility that long pre-dated the start of the new retail market in 1995.

In my view, Elliots cafe is a Trojan horse for a very different type of market to that which has existed previously at Borough. One, much less gritty and real life - a "charicature" of a market; where "twee-ness" replaces "earthiness" and serious trading, and branding replaces content, character and the cut and thrust of business; where flower arrangements and murals replace innovation, energy and drive. Where market "characters" are replaced by a market "spokesman". Some customers and traders may like that, even prefer it. I think it is ghastly.

For the record I am informed that over the past 18 months the following 50 trader positions have been lost, primarily to the casual market. Culinery Herb Co; Power of Nature; Angela Malik; Power Falafal: Gary's Fish, Love Farm, Perry Court Organic Veg; Sussex Fowl; Little Copice Nursery; Plum Bread; Dark Sugar; Gourmet Mushrooms; Fern Verrow; Fresh Pasta Company; Greek Connection; Bournes Cheshire Cheese; Hebredian Smokehouse; Rhodes Bakery; Ham & Cheese Company; Parmesan Cheese; Basque Salami; Kaeswiss cheese; Borenkaas cheese; Kappaskasin; Borough Cheese Company; Topolski; Mons Cheese, Hophurst Farm; Stichelton; Maison Bertaux; Seldon SeenGeese; Tofu Neil; Monmouth Coffee; Flour Power; Applebees; De Gustibus; Gamston Wood; Mrs Bassa; Scandelicious; Orkney Rose and Sharpham Park. From the Wholesale Market; Booths mushrooms; A Sugarman; C&C Fruit; Bournes; and Permanent stands; West Country Venison; Farmer Sharp; Flour Power.

Obviously new traders have arrived, but it does put into perspective the current rhetoric about Borough Market as a thriving base for artisan traders, and the difficulties inherent in maintaining such a model.

No-one wants to see Borough Market fail - least of all me, having spent 13 years building it up. But let's hope that in coming forward with a new vision, we are left with a market that is real; full; achievable and relevant to its traders and customers. I personally have my doubts, but I hope I am proved wrong.
Tuesday 14 June 2011 3.34pm
It will not surprise anyone that this thread is being followed keenly by many in the market community.

It is timely to remind people that discussions here are not conducted in a vacuum and can have real repercussions for both the poster and for this website in general.

One person's idle speculation is another person's deeply offensive personal attack.

Whilst those who have put themselves forward as trustees past and present must properly be open to some scrutiny of their actions, clearly there are limits and I would appeal to people not to test those limits.

It is not appropriate to get into the business of line-by-line moderation of people's posts. The alternative is to draw this thread to a close and remove it from public view. Please don't put us in a position where that is the only option.

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Tuesday 14 June 2011 4.00pm
Mr Hatts, thank you -- have I missed your summary of the chat you had with Mr Wilkinson? You meant to post that at one time...
Tuesday 14 June 2011 4.05pm
No, you haven't missed it - I'm working on it now. I'd like to apologise to Peter Wilkinson and everyone reading this that it's taken so long to write up and publish.

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