Jules62 wrote:...I would go one step further and have these legalized extortionists outlawed altogether.
They pray on the poor and vulnerable who are desperate to make ends meet, and tie them into an escalating spiral of debt...
lucysalisbury wrote:Yes. Another empty shopfront. How wonderful.Excellent news for the community
boroughonian wrote:Betting shops and loansharks are two completely different debates,to lump them together,I think,is worrying and shows where people are really coming from on this,was this ever really a moral issue?
Do us a favour,leave Manzes alone eh.
Ivanhoe wrote:What other legal businesses are you going to campaign to drive out of the borough, just because you don't like those businesses?
Is it OK to have a casino on Park Lane, but not a bookies on TBR?
Jules62 wrote:I wasn't proposing driving these businesses out of the borough: I would like to see them outlawed and banned from the whole Kingdom.
orione wrote:So - you're happy for people you perceive as rich to be allowed to gamble, but you think that the people you perceive as poor should be denied access? Interesting. What other things should poor people be denied? What other evils would you "protect" them from?Ivanhoe can you accept that Park lane has three or four 6stars hotels, a bentley dealer and a casino? Means people with money or wish to squander it will go there...
orione wrote:Despite trying quite hard to understand it, I have no idea what you are saying.I guess what the councillors are saying is that if you have a kind of independent shops you should try to help these people to survive rather than kill the area by allowing by money to dispossess them by using the simple power of the cash. I find it very applicable to other areas.. and sensible..
orione wrote:Ivanhoe (who is not Voltaire) says that what appears to have happened here is that a small number of people who feel very strongly about payday loan companies appear to have found a spurious way to try and bend the planning rules to get their own way and ban a shop trying to conduct legal business and create jobs. Voltaire, I'm sure, would not have found this to be the best of all possible worlds.Volatire (which is not wikipedia I know) use to say that Democracy is the power of the majority which sometimes corresponds to the wish of the fools.. I am not sure I agree but it makes me think.
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