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Wednesday 14 March 2012 12.26am
You mentioned Berlin but we could add Shanghai Taikang lu district or Beijing M50 district.. Mogashan lu ( I think..)
These are all beautiful conversion of warehouse into art.

My question is: if this would happen here who should take the step and responsibility?
A private investment? A council direct intervention?

Still I believe the warehouse in stoney street could fit into this.
Wednesday 14 March 2012 12.47am
I guess SE1/Southwark needs to rediscover, reinvent, even reclaim its identity. There is so much history here, Dickens, Chaucer, Chaplin, yet so little of it is celebrated or indeed used to inspire. If at all it's commercialised. We don't even have a local football club, kids have to travel to Tulse Hill or Westminster, as even Waterloo F.C. isn't a club your child can just go by themselves on a wintery Tuesday evening.
Wednesday 14 March 2012 8.57am
eDWaRD WooDWaRD wrote:
I guess SE1/Southwark needs to rediscover, reinvent, even reclaim its identity. There is so much history here, Dickens, Chaucer, Chaplin, yet so little of it is celebrated or indeed used to inspire. If at all it's commercialised. We don't even have a local football club, kids have to travel to Tulse Hill or Westminster, as even Waterloo F.C. isn't a club your child can just go by themselves on a wintery Tuesday evening.

So are you saying that SE1 is lacking identity?....maybe because many people moved in recently. Me included and it has become like a residential part of London with no real roots? I tend to second that. But could it develop now?

Once Tower Bridge road was a huge maze of antiques. Now it is lost and those huge spaces that could have been used in many ways. But I guess it went for offices/apartments.

Even the places like Shad Thames. Beautiful, of course, but the concentration of flats vs retail is massive. At night it is almost depressing. Same in Bermondsey street. The buildings vacant on Borough High street still represent a hope in my view.

Honestly the fact that most of these threads are about restaurants or supermarkets is very depressing in my view. We know already that eating is a main need...
Wednesday 14 March 2012 11.06am
I was under the impression that the development of the One Tower bridge area included a 'high street' style row of retail units leading onto Tooley Street. I think that SE1 really lacks a shopping destination, with little or no choice but to walk to One New Change or Spitalfields way. Its a shame really.
Wednesday 14 March 2012 11.14am
Anybody knows about the arches in union street? In front of the fire brigade building. Something is going on there. Hopefully something in that direction.
I would be very curious to know the figures regardIng density of population in Se1 and retail options. I believe we rank at the bottom in central London...
Excluding some parts of st Johns wood and maida vale for obvious reason (super posh residential)..
Wednesday 14 March 2012 1.46pm
eDWaRD WooDWaRD wrote:
I guess SE1/Southwark needs to rediscover, reinvent, even reclaim its identity. There is so much history here, Dickens, Chaucer, Chaplin, yet so little of it is celebrated or indeed used to inspire. If at all it's commercialised. We don't even have a local football club, kids have to travel to Tulse Hill or Westminster, as even Waterloo F.C. isn't a club your child can just go by themselves on a wintery Tuesday evening.

What we have developing in se1 is an apartheid of communities,I don't know how or if we can get past this or even if "we" want to.
Free schools wont help either.
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