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Zoe
Friday 7 December 2012 8.03am
There's nothing wrong with developing Blackfriars Road, but development does not have to be massive towers. This site is not right for something that tall.

It's funny how we are always accused of nimbyism, however we don't have backyards as we live in Council high rises. We put up with a lot living here, but this road is too narrow for this building. If we were nimbys we would be constantly objecting to buildings, yet we aren't, we accept that there will be development. That doesn't mean we have to put up with anything some rich developers want to do, as there's some money to be made (and probably no tax to be paid). Just because Linden Homes want it, doesn't mean the rest of us have to accept it, our opinions count too, whatever Southwark Council think.
Friday 7 December 2012 7.15pm
Grrr; I hate it when people assume anyone who objects to a new development is a Nimby. Even the LBS has identified that this part of Blackfriars is not suitable for such a large building. Hopefully they will remember this when the design goes to the planners; in the meantime we must object to this development and continue to encourage responsible development in the area.
Saturday 8 December 2012 1.07am
Karen I wrote:
Grrr; I hate it when people assume anyone who objects to a new development is a Nimby.

Grrr; I hate it when people read another person's views and over-simplify them.
Saturday 8 December 2012 1.13am
GeminiX wrote:
...Throughout it's history, the borough has always been diverse, changing and an eclectic mix - probably not the best place to live if you are a NIMBY? Great for those who want to be part of a dynamic and constantly evolving city.

Not great for those who get an out-of-all-proportion tower built in front of their window. Even less great when you feel like neither the Council nor the developers really give two hoots about you might feel about that. And even more less great when people just put it down to what a great wonderfully evolving city is is and hey ho!
Saturday 8 December 2012 4.37am
Merlin Rouge wrote:
Even less great when you feel like neither the Council nor the developers really give two hoots about you might feel about that.

Merlin Rouge wrote:
In my day, a property developer was a shady rat-like creature who only skulked around their offices by day and development sites by cover of eldritch darkness. They used to socialise with estate agents and journalists

I get the impression you wouldn't have liked it, whatever they proposed?
Saturday 8 December 2012 9.34am
And don't forget the construction work itself and all the lories it will require. The road will get destroyed once more... Yet I do pay my council taxes. Why can't I enjoy roads worthy of a developed nation... Ah! It's because there is yet again a large scale development planed somewhere in the vicinity and it would be pointless to resurface... And it goes on and on and on...

Construction work brings nuisance to the neighbours not matter what. Yet this should be mitigated by section 106 payments ... Except the cash is not being spent in the area where the construction is done but instead in the wards which elected the current council who is more than happy to let the developers a free reign in the north of the borough so long as the cash keeps coming
Saturday 8 December 2012 10.29am
But Blackfriars Road is bleak and ugly (I can say that because I used to live there), but has potential to be something much better.
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That's probably what the people who allowed blackfriars road to become the architectural delight it is now thought at the time.
Saturday 8 December 2012 1.50pm
I agree, much of Blackfriars Road is bleak and ugly. But because of that I just cannot see that it would be a sensible or positive step to knock this building down, one of the last buildings at a human scale on the southern half of the road.



There is nothing NIMBY about this - Erlang House and other blocks nearby sit underused, and the South Bank University is sitting on the empty site at St George's Circus and have left the other side of the Circus empty for years and years.

It certainly the case that development on the street has been piecemeal since the war, and specific policy for the street is overdue. It is unfortunate that this seems to be being developed behind closed doors between members of the "Blackfriars Road Landowners' Forum" and the council leader, who seem to think that they can on their own, and without input from local people "bring developers and landowners together so we can get an agreed view on public realm and a shared vision for Blackfriars Road" as revealed on this website here. Agreed by whom? When will we be told what the "agreement" is? Shouldn't the public be telling developers, and not the other way around?
Saturday 8 December 2012 10.31pm
GeminiX wrote:
Merlin Rouge wrote:
Even less great when you feel like neither the Council nor the developers really give two hoots about you might feel about that.

Merlin Rouge wrote:
In my day, a property developer was a shady rat-like creature who only skulked around their offices by day and development sites by cover of eldritch darkness. They used to socialise with estate agents and journalists

I get the impression you wouldn't have liked it, whatever they proposed?

I tend not to like propositions by property developers. I am old fashioned in that way.
Sunday 9 December 2012 10.11am
i live just about directly across the rd, (108.
While its sad for the cafe, drycleaner owners, Im pretty sure Sam at Imbibe made a fat profit when he sold the freehold to the developer.
With the new building at 1 valentine and the grade 1 refurb happening at friars house, either of the propositions will fit nicely on that site. all thats needed is a few more sites on Blackfriars rd to be updated now.
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