james127 wrote:I agree that it's wrong that cyclists have to ride on the pavement -- they are doing this out of fear of the chaotic streets. If you dislike this happening, supporting London Cycling Campaign's 'Go Dutch' initiative would be a good way to help with the problem.
urbanite wrote:I hardly ever see a car go through a red light
james127 wrote:No, I was serious about giving cyclists the agency to decide if they can proceed through a red light.
Yes, cyclists should be forced to STOP at red lights. But, no, cyclists should NOT be forced to wait at a red light if it is safe to proceed -- bikes are not 2,000 ton boxes of metal that kill and maim people, especially children.
Nuance is necessary when comparing a bicycle to a car.
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