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Whitesmith's Arms, Crosby Row - closed down?

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Thursday 3 January 2013 4.14pm
It has indeed re-opened - Seamus (the old landlord of the Black Horse on Great Dover St) is the new owner. He and Michael the barman are good fun and full of stories.
Friday 4 January 2013 11.04am
Seamus is an experienced land lord, so is bound to make a good job of it. Hope he has karaoke!
Saturday 5 January 2013 6.35am
Since The Rose closed we could do with a proper local
Local People
Wednesday 9 January 2013 11.30am
Whitesmith Arms for sale

Strange one this as it seems that the Whitesmith freehold is for sale with vacant possession with these agents
Thursday 14 March 2013 2.40pm
I was told 3 weeks ago that it has now been sold to a developer who is turning it into apartments.
Thursday 14 March 2013 9.16pm
That's sad. Pubs form a part of the glue that keep our community together. Just this week the United St Saviour's Charity ( - our oldest local charity dating back to Henry VI and Chartered by Henry VIII has bought the freehold of Simon the Tanner in Long Lane.

As a charity we also own The Wheatsheaf and The Market Porter in Borough Market, and we are looking at purchasing other pubs in the local area to make sure that this aspect of the community is preserved. We did press-release this but it wasn't picked up:

An iconic Borough pub has today been bought - by a local Southwark charity.

The freehold of the Grade II listed Simon the Tanner pub, in Long Lane, has been purchased by the United St Saviour’s Charity . The news comes at a time when Southwark has seen more pub closures than almost anywhere else in England .

The pub takes its name from the surrounding area which was once the centre of the tanning industry. ‘Simon the Tanner’ was the Coptic Orthodox saint associated with the story of the moving the Mokattam Mountain, Egypt, in around 975 AD.

Councillor Tim McNally, a trustee of the Charity, said: “Purchasing the freehold of Simon the Tanner demonstrates our commitment to keeping this iconic pub as a pub. We also own the historic Wheatsheaf and Market Porter, both in Borough Market. The income that we receive from these pubs helps to support Southwark pensioners through our almshouse provision and local community organisations through charitable grants ”.

Julie Friel, the pub’s landlady, said: “We welcome St Saviour’s as a freeholder that is committed to improving the local community. It means that we can focus on our aim of delivering good beer, good food and a great community pub.”

I hope that if anyone hears of any other local pub coming up for sale that you'll let us know.

We use the income from our properties to fund the ever increasing grants programme that means that this year we'll be giving almost £600,000 to local groups.

Am sad if the Whitesmith's has gone to another residential only development but hopefully we can - as with Simon the Tanner - ensure that we get a pub with flats above and not just a loss of yet another pub


Cllr Tim McNally
020 7525 7157
07903 967 809
Friday 15 March 2013 12.15am
Tim, surely if the pub doesn't have the customer base to keep it open, it serves little purpose to the community and charity money is better spent elsewhere?

Simon the Tanner is a good pub, well run, and pretty busy. The Whitesmiths Arms, the couple of times I've been in, is a very neglected place which had little atmosphere as a result.
Friday 15 March 2013 8.55am
I remember when the Simon didn't do so well. The new flats weren't built & Long Lane was just a cut through for traffic.
The Simon, Gillys (Ancient Britain) Lord Nelson , Valentine & The George were all trading at the same time 20 years ago. That's a 150 yard stretch.
It was closed on a number of occasions & numerous landlords lost money.
Should you keep pubs as they are just in case an area becomes gentrified? Would areas ever evolve if you did?
Friday 19 April 2013 8.16am
Planning application to convert the pub to residential use:

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Thursday 8 August 2013 6.59am
Southwark Council has now granted planning permission for the conversion of The Whitesmiths Arms in Crosby Row into a private house.

That is copied from this forum's news section.
RIP The Whites.

Anyone remember George & his missus? She was from up Norf, well able to look after herself & ran that place for a fair lump of the 80's. Proper clicky but good for a lock in.
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