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The Siege of The Elephant: Convergence against gentrification of The Elephant Nov 17th 2012

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Monday 22 October 2012 2.29pm
samlouise01 wrote:
I just hope that when this new development is completed, that rents will be frozen based on what they were previously paying.

http://affordable.heroku.com/blog/2012/10/20/southwark-council-stuffed-by-lend-lease-again/
Monday 22 October 2012 2.59pm
This is ridiculous. Something needs to be done. The money these people make are off the backs of the people that they treat like something you'd wipe off your shoe.

How dare they? HOW DARE THEY?

Society is going to crumble into the ground. Unless people do what the British have always been famous for. and that is TAKING NO SH*T.

I have had ENOUGH. between politicians stealing tax payers money to pay for porn or garden ornaments or whatever it is that floats their boat, Bankers STILL being given HUGE amounts of money to completely F*ck our society up. "I know you rolled us into the worst economic crisis in modern history and you have no soul... Here’s MILLIONS in bonus's" and their argument? "they will leave the country and we will loose our top bankers"

No1. They are not our top bankers as they don't have a clue about what the hell they are doing

No2. Let them GO. the rest of the world are not exactly in the best financial state either. They will soon be BEGGING to come back. by which time we could have trained some fresh minds to take over and do a BETTER job.

The government are put in place to RUN THIS COUNTRY as the CITIZEN'S see fit.

They are not FIT to operate anything. and THAT is why they are trying to privatise everything. give they're mates a contract, get a back hander at the same time, and if the proverbial hits the fan... well sorry it was not us... it was that private firm over there... that we instructed.


And Southwark council need to MAN UP! why are these developers getting away with this crap… just like the new build 1 Blackfriars road… BUYING out the council so that the rich do not have to share their living space with the poor? I am sorry but if some big shot developer gave me that offer I would tell them to shove it right up their you know what. if you want to build in the area then you have to live with the people.

Maybe they will start handing out masks too.. so they don’t have to breathe the same air as us.

We are the majority… they are the minority. Why are we taking this?
Monday 22 October 2012 3.16pm
ceity slicker wrote:
Merlin Rouge wrote:
ceity slicker wrote:
Hi Merlin Rouge
I don't know what gentrification is and I would need to be clear on that point before deciding For or Against it. Can you help me with that?

Until then, I'm tempted to consider "The Siege" as I would a post-modernist work of art...as a subjective event from which everyone will draw the conclusion they wish to.

The organisers Southwark Notes explain gentrification and regeneration on their site:

http://southwarknotes.wordpress.com/where-we-are-coming-from/


"Gentrification is...the displacement of the original poorer inhabitants by wealthier ones." Southwark Notes.

Have I got this right ?

So it would be OK by Southwark Notes to displace the original inhabitants of the Elephant, as long as it was with poorer people ?

Myself, am not following the logic of your question
Monday 22 October 2012 3.22pm
I.

...if you press it, they will come.
Monday 22 October 2012 4.12pm
samlouise01 wrote:
This is ridiculous. Something needs to be done. The money these people make are off the backs of the people that they treat like something you'd wipe off your shoe.
How dare they? HOW DARE THEY?

Society is going to crumble into the ground. Unless people do what the British have always been famous for. and that is TAKING NO SH*T.

I have had ENOUGH. between politicians stealing tax payers money to pay for porn or garden ornaments or whatever it is that floats their boat, Bankers STILL being given HUGE amounts of money to completely F*ck our society up. "I know you rolled us into the worst economic crisis in modern history and you have no soul... Here’s MILLIONS in bonus's" and their argument? "they will leave the country and we will loose our top bankers"

No1. They are not our top bankers as they don't have a clue about what the hell they are doing

No2. Let them GO. the rest of the world are not exactly in the best financial state either. They will soon be BEGGING to come back. by which time we could have trained some fresh minds to take over and do a BETTER job.

The government are put in place to RUN THIS COUNTRY as the CITIZEN'S see fit.

They are not FIT to operate anything. and THAT is why they are trying to privatise everything. give they're mates a contract, get a back hander at the same time, and if the proverbial hits the fan... well sorry it was not us... it was that private firm over there... that we instructed.


And Southwark council need to MAN UP! why are these developers getting away with this crap… just like the new build 1 Blackfriars road… BUYING out the council so that the rich do not have to share their living space with the poor? I am sorry but if some big shot developer gave me that offer I would tell them to shove it right up their you know what. if you want to build in the area then you have to live with the people.

Maybe they will start handing out masks too.. so they don’t have to breathe the same air as us.

We are the majority… they are the minority. Why are we taking this?

rather strong!
Monday 22 October 2012 4.37pm
AND A BIT SHOUTY
cbg
Monday 22 October 2012 7.46pm
I had a look at the website and it seems to be quite one sided. But then... I am living in one of the ugly, evil buildings that are part of the gentrification.
Monday 22 October 2012 8.41pm
You can’t stop progress... and frankly I would like to get a new regenerate E&C ASAP
Monday 22 October 2012 11.57pm
samlouise01 wrote:
This is ridiculous. Something needs to be done. The money these people make are off the backs of the people that they treat like something you'd wipe off your shoe.
How dare they? HOW DARE THEY?

Society is going to crumble into the ground. Unless people do what the British have always been famous for. and that is TAKING NO SH*T.

I have had ENOUGH. between politicians stealing tax payers money to pay for porn or garden ornaments or whatever it is that floats their boat, Bankers STILL being given HUGE amounts of money to completely F*ck our society up. "I know you rolled us into the worst economic crisis in modern history and you have no soul... Here’s MILLIONS in bonus's" and their argument? "they will leave the country and we will loose our top bankers"

No1. They are not our top bankers as they don't have a clue about what the hell they are doing

No2. Let them GO. the rest of the world are not exactly in the best financial state either. They will soon be BEGGING to come back. by which time we could have trained some fresh minds to take over and do a BETTER job.

The government are put in place to RUN THIS COUNTRY as the CITIZEN'S see fit.

They are not FIT to operate anything. and THAT is why they are trying to privatise everything. give they're mates a contract, get a back hander at the same time, and if the proverbial hits the fan... well sorry it was not us... it was that private firm over there... that we instructed.


And Southwark council need to MAN UP! why are these developers getting away with this crap… just like the new build 1 Blackfriars road… BUYING out the council so that the rich do not have to share their living space with the poor? I am sorry but if some big shot developer gave me that offer I would tell them to shove it right up their you know what. if you want to build in the area then you have to live with the people.

Maybe they will start handing out masks too.. so they don’t have to breathe the same air as us.

We are the majority… they are the minority. Why are we taking this?

This
Tuesday 23 October 2012 6.28am
samlouise01 wrote:
This is ridiculous. Something needs to be done. The money these people make are off the backs of the people that they treat like something you'd wipe off your shoe.
How dare they? HOW DARE THEY?

Society is going to crumble into the ground. Unless people do what the British have always been famous for. and that is TAKING NO SH*T.

I have had ENOUGH. between politicians stealing tax payers money to pay for porn or garden ornaments or whatever it is that floats their boat, Bankers STILL being given HUGE amounts of money to completely F*ck our society up. "I know you rolled us into the worst economic crisis in modern history and you have no soul... Here’s MILLIONS in bonus's" and their argument? "they will leave the country and we will loose our top bankers"

No1. They are not our top bankers as they don't have a clue about what the hell they are doing

No2. Let them GO. the rest of the world are not exactly in the best financial state either. They will soon be BEGGING to come back. by which time we could have trained some fresh minds to take over and do a BETTER job.

The government are put in place to RUN THIS COUNTRY as the CITIZEN'S see fit.

They are not FIT to operate anything. and THAT is why they are trying to privatise everything. give they're mates a contract, get a back hander at the same time, and if the proverbial hits the fan... well sorry it was not us... it was that private firm over there... that we instructed.


And Southwark council need to MAN UP! why are these developers getting away with this crap… just like the new build 1 Blackfriars road… BUYING out the council so that the rich do not have to share their living space with the poor? I am sorry but if some big shot developer gave me that offer I would tell them to shove it right up their you know what. if you want to build in the area then you have to live with the people.

Maybe they will start handing out masks too.. so they don’t have to breathe the same air as us.

We are the majority… they are the minority. Why are we taking this?

Bloody brilliant rant! I am really pleased to see the Siege happening, thanks for posting this Merlin. The key here is engagement and thinking through regeneration with the community rather than simply allowing the private sector to profit out of it and displace the community. Seems simple and obvious (to me, at least) but getting in the way of profit - even if it is common sense - is getting harder and harder.
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