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Thursday 23 January 2014 1.37am
Cant't sleep. The vocals from the cilents are not too bad the whores shifting furniture between each one is deafening. What are they doing?
Thursday 23 January 2014 11.53am
What is wrong with our society today where landlords seem to be dragging their feet in evicting this obviously very lucrative business, can't believe this is still going on, if I had young children living in these flats I would be terrified in case some perve gets their hands on them..I wonder if the estate still have a live in site caretaker who can keep a tab on the comings and goings of this lot? People are desperate for accommodation ..
Thursday 23 January 2014 12.19pm
Social landlords generally would prefer them to live there as tolerated trespassers /causing havoc and crime then pay the court/legal fees to evict them and give someone genuine/honest the chance of a home.

google the brumby v Octavia Housing case in Southwark

Of course this makes no sense to real honest people as the vast majority of social housing tenants are- only to their accountants. There is also such a big turn over of staff in the council housing departments -ultimately no one takes responsibility for anything. Or sees ASB/Crime cases through to eviction.

The tenants of Guinness though can take the landlord to court for failings re ASB and there own (no doubt nod to a ASB policy) and under the covenant of quiet enjoyment if as it sounds the neighbouring tenants cannot live peacefully in their own homes because of the Land Lords lack of action. You can get advice re this at victim Support. You are not only victims of the offending flats but the landlord's failure to act.
Thursday 23 January 2014 12.44pm
Kory wrote:
The tenants of Guinness though can take the landlord to court for failings re ASB and there own (no doubt nod to a ASB policy) and under the covenant of quiet enjoyment if as it sounds the neighbouring tenants cannot live peacefully in their own homes because of the Land Lords lack of action. You can get advice re this at victim Support. You are not only victims of the offending flats but the landlord's failure to act.

Thank you for the above info Kory, thats good to know. I've suffered for the past 7 years with ASB, only to be told keep a diary!
Thursday 23 January 2014 1.27pm
POPs yes that is what social landlords usually do and then usually lose them, so it is pointless. However keep your own records for the future, photo copy and send all to land lord by recorded delivery.
I'd go to victim support and get a list of solicitors who deal in such cases / Be sure to send a recorded delivery letter to the landlord saying you are seeking advice as you are a victim of the land lord failing to act and take reasonable steps. The Brumby v Octavia case changed the stakes quite a bit as regards this- you land lord will now know they can be prosecuted for failing to act. They just think people won't bother...
Tuesday 28 January 2014 6.33pm
Pops, my wife and I had a similar problem in an estate in Borough.

We had visitors of our neighbours socialising outside our front door from midnight to 3am most nights of the week. Unfortunately we didn't realise that our neighbours had the worst intentions even after discussing it with them. It turned out the visitors were coming to buy drugs from our neighbour and we had exactly the same response from Southwark council and the police "Keep a diary, and we will monitor it".

It got to a point where I would go outside and ask these people to leave and they would then start threatening and harassing us, banging on our door as they walked past at all hours, pressing the door buzzer for 10 minutes at a time. Moving in a gang so we couldn't confront them, trying to intimidate us. etc.

All the time the council did nothing. We were then in a taxi preparing to leave the flat as we couldn't live there anymore when the taxi driver asked what was wrong as my wife was crying. He explained he was in exactly the same situation and consulted a lawyer who sent a letter of intent to sue to the council for the value of our leasehold and damages as they were not honouring the covenant of the building (your lease with the landlords responsibilities).

You would not believe the response. Within 24 hours a police officer along with the housing officer had a signed affidavit from the offending neighbour admitting everything and they signed a document that if there was ever another problem they could be evicted without trial.

We have not had a problem since. The trick is to make as much noise to the right people. If I was you I would email to the local MP describing what you have done so far and let him know of your intention to take it to the press and tie it to his name.
Tuesday 28 January 2014 7.20pm
gavldn wrote:
. We have not had a problem since. The trick is to make as much noise to the right people. If I was you I would email to the local MP describing what you have done so far and let him know of your intention to take it to the press and tie it to his name.

Believe it or not I wrote to Simon Hughes 4 times for help, all letters have gone un-answered? I called the police one night and got the tenant arrested! Guinness had to do something then. We seem to get "problem and vulnerable" tenants housed here, they don't care as long as the rent is paid?
Tuesday 28 January 2014 7.40pm
galvdn - I am so glad your fortitude paid off. In many social housing cases not dis-simaler cases as Pops describes the answer is to prosecute the land lord for failing to act - since the Brumby v Octavia Case ( Royal Courts of Justice) it is easier as a social landlord can be prosecuted ( evidence provided obviously) for failing to take action/eviction re ASB.

Believe me starting proceeding re this - will re-focus any social land lord into taking action -as they know they can be prosecuted and publically exposed.

It is very hard work - and social landlords rely on the fact they will get away with it-as many tenants for all sorts of legitimate reasons rarely prosecute.

By the way Housing/Action re landlords is one of the very few types of case there is any hope of getting legal aid.
Thursday 6 February 2014 1.12am
Thank you Kory for the information. The victim support bit is particularly intersesting as tenants in Guinness Court, Snowsfields have been threatened with violence for reporting ASB from the brothels and the Guinness Trust are fully aware of this.
I'm wondering if there's any use in contacting Simon Hughes too. Getting scary with all the smack addicts in Guinness Court now.
Thursday 6 February 2014 10.21am
It will be useful to have the backing of your MP and him writing to the landlord. But ultimately your best focus would be to take Legal Action against the Landlord for failing to take steps/eviction re ASB. Victims support can give you a list of solicitors who would be appropriate. Don't be deterred with solicitors being hard to get .... it can take a while to get the right one...because of their current lists.
It's a slog alright - but can be done.
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