Robin_Hood wrote:Boss St Bloke.
Police stopping cyclists for "wearing headphones" should spend their time better, by checking lorries for problems, ticketing drivers going into the ASL when the light is red, etc etc.. all these things are illegal. wearing headphones on a bike is not.
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Robin_Hood wrote:Debrajoan wrote:On the letters page of today's Evening Standard a cyclist gave his reason for going through lights that were red;
If I stopped at them all it would double my commute time.
Even if that is just a few cyclist's outlook, then it will come as no surprise to me if I carry on reading of more cyclist deaths.
none of the recent cyclist deaths were because they were jumping red lights!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
dee dee wrote:and Robin Hood do you not think cyclists should have to read the highway code as well and understand road positioning etc??
The real culprit here is the lack of investment and foresight in road planning
blaming one party or another will not help a serious review into making street safer is needed and recommendation that are acted on
Little Richardjohn wrote:Cycling is completely misunderstood. Often by born-again cyclists, who find it difficult to shed their motoring preconceptions.
Someone should explain to them that 'jumping' red lights is often the safest option. When you’ve got a Formula 1 grid revving up behind you, you want to be clearly visible to as much of it as possible. And the only way to do that on a bike is to get clear distance (braking distance) between you and the pack. Also it allows you to duck into the ‘wake’ of any parked vehicles up the road to avoid the worst of the rush. That’s often why cyclists ‘jump’ red lights. Pure safety.
One solution would be a 5 mph limit for the first 30/40 yards after a junction, to give unpowered traffic time to escape the rush. Like the Formula 1 pit lane. But presumably that would be another abominable attack on the rights of the motorist.
eDWaRD WooDWaRD wrote:On Saturday I saw a lorry with one of those "Cyclists, stay back" stickers... nn the driver's door. That will help.
Guy's street wrote:We have no way of knowing the breakdown. But it is still the safest way to avoid being sideswiped by a vehicle racing from the green light. And most experienced cyclists sense this, as indeed you do.I've done a fair amount of cycling in traffic and elsewhere - I'd say that while in some cases you might be right that cyclists think that jumping the light is the safest option, the majority do it because it is convenient for them.
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