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Thursday 20 February 2014 11.33am
Which genius thought of this?! http://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/view/7412
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Thursday 20 February 2014 2.27pm
Does this mean the "biggest new park in London for 70 years" ( Southwark Council) will be called Elephant Park Park?
Friday 21 February 2014 10.16am
How many mature trees are already on the Heygate now? simples...destroy them and name the pieces of concrete that replaces them ' Elephant Park'
Friday 21 February 2014 10.22am
Surely Southwark's own Burgess Park is miles bigger than the pipsqueak park the developers are intending to build in the new builds on the Heygate site?

At the Heygate Leaseholders CPO inquiry last year, when asked directly on this matter, no one from the Council was able to source where there own 'biggest park for 70 years' quote came from nor whether it was based on any research.

Yet to this day, this 'biggest park' quote appears in press articles about the forthcoming regeneration from above.
Friday 21 February 2014 10.29am
Merlin Rouge wrote:
Surely Southwark's own Burgess Park is miles bigger than the pipsqueak park the developers are intending to build in the new builds on the Heygate site?
At the Heygate Leaseholders CPO inquiry last year, when asked directly on this matter, no one from the Council was able to source where there own 'biggest park for 70 years' quote came from nor whether it was based on any research.

Yet to this day, this 'biggest park' quote appears in press articles about the forthcoming regeneration from above.

According to Southwark's own Burgess Park website;
'Burgess Park is unique in that it is a young park, developed as a result of the Abecrombie Plan for open spaces in 1943. The area was home to factories, densely populated streets and the Surrey Canal but badly bombed during World War II.'

So 1943 to 2013 = 70 years!
Friday 21 February 2014 11.10am
John C wrote:
Merlin Rouge wrote:
Surely Southwark's own Burgess Park is miles bigger than the pipsqueak park the developers are intending to build in the new builds on the Heygate site?
At the Heygate Leaseholders CPO inquiry last year, when asked directly on this matter, no one from the Council was able to source where there own 'biggest park for 70 years' quote came from nor whether it was based on any research.

Yet to this day, this 'biggest park' quote appears in press articles about the forthcoming regeneration from above.

According to Southwark's own Burgess Park website;
'Burgess Park is unique in that it is a young park, developed as a result of the Abecrombie Plan for open spaces in 1943. The area was home to factories, densely populated streets and the Surrey Canal but badly bombed during World War II.'

So 1943 to 2013 = 70 years!

Just been looking at the Abercrombie Plan (County of London Plan, 1943-4, Chapter 3):
http://www.gardenvisit.com/assets/Abercrombie_County_of_London_Open_Spaces_and_Park_System_1943a.pdf

The plan of the proposals (page 3 in the pdf) does indeed show what is now Burgess Park - but about twice the size. It extended further east across Glengall Road in a triangle right up to the OKR at the junction with Peckham Park Road, with also a large rectangular area the other side of the OKR all the way back to the old Bricklayers Arms railway yards (Mandela Way etc).

But presuambly after the war it was thought more important to build houses in these areas.
Friday 21 February 2014 6.44pm
John C wrote:
Merlin Rouge wrote:
Surely Southwark's own Burgess Park is miles bigger than the pipsqueak park the developers are intending to build in the new builds on the Heygate site?
At the Heygate Leaseholders CPO inquiry last year, when asked directly on this matter, no one from the Council was able to source where there own 'biggest park for 70 years' quote came from nor whether it was based on any research.

Yet to this day, this 'biggest park' quote appears in press articles about the forthcoming regeneration from above.

According to Southwark's own Burgess Park website;
'Burgess Park is unique in that it is a young park, developed as a result of the Abecrombie Plan for open spaces in 1943. The area was home to factories, densely populated streets and the Surrey Canal but badly bombed during World War II.'

So 1943 to 2013 = 70 years!

Yes, indeed, but the park was actually built over the last 60 years to the extent that it is now. There were still houses and roads there in the 1980's and early 90's.
Friday 21 February 2014 8.02pm
Merlin Rouge wrote:
John C wrote:
Merlin Rouge wrote:
Surely Southwark's own Burgess Park is miles bigger than the pipsqueak park the developers are intending to build in the new builds on the Heygate site?
At the Heygate Leaseholders CPO inquiry last year, when asked directly on this matter, no one from the Council was able to source where there own 'biggest park for 70 years' quote came from nor whether it was based on any research.

Yet to this day, this 'biggest park' quote appears in press articles about the forthcoming regeneration from above.

According to Southwark's own Burgess Park website;
'Burgess Park is unique in that it is a young park, developed as a result of the Abecrombie Plan for open spaces in 1943. The area was home to factories, densely populated streets and the Surrey Canal but badly bombed during World War II.'

So 1943 to 2013 = 70 years!

Yes, indeed, but the park was actually built over the last 60 years to the extent that it is now. There were still houses and roads there in the 1980's and early 90's.

Yes, historically you're correct of course, Merlin, but the date of the Abercrombie Plan being assumed to be the date for the 'inception' of the park MUST be the source of the Council's '70 years' claim - and we're talking politics and publicity here, not real history.
Saturday 22 February 2014 10.42am
I quite like it. It's simple, rather playful, and doesn't sound like it's been squeezed out of some management consultant's jargon arse.
Saturday 22 February 2014 12.31pm
The way the social fabric is changing around the Elephant, they should have named this development Elegant & Castle...
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