Brendan D wrote:EW, can I ask you a question? When you were driving your taxi, did you feel it was your responsibility to 'correct and police' irresponsible drivers??
eDWaRD WooDWaRD wrote:Guy's street wrote:My complaint is that we all get tarred with the same brush, whether that's about behaviour on (or off) the road, or our attitudes.
I think that there's enough evidence on here that not everyone tars all cyclists with the same brush, however, although some cyclists agree that there a small minority of cyclists whose behaviour is wrong, in my opinion they don't really make any clear, visible, strong effort to distance/differentiate themselves from the bad eggs but instead isolate the community by indulging in some collective "poor cyclists against the rest of the world" self-victimisation. That creates the perception that instead of condemning rogue cycling, it is condoned across the cycling community. I totally agree that everybody, from BoJO to other road users, should work to make cycling safe, but cyclist can not just demand this, they have to do their bit as well. If, at the moment, people come down harder on cyclists than on others, then that may be harsh and unfair, but to large part it's up to cyclists to change that perception in order to create a level playing field. Otherwise, the pointless responding to accusations with counter accusations will never stop and the mutual hostility with all its lethal consequences will only escalate further.
eDWaRD WooDWaRD wrote:johnnytee wrote:
LOL! You've completely lost it now.
Ivanhoe wrote:Well said, EW. This debate should be about ways to move forward and make things safer for everyone.
In order to do that, I think that we all need to accept our shortcomings. No one is infallible.
Jules62 wrote:This is a good discussion thread, but we really should try to avoid it getting personal...
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