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Wednesday 27 August 2014 6.18pm
Karen1 - totally agree! Please sign and help prevent this craziness and if you can encourage others to do so too, it would be greatly appreciated; thanks :-)

http://www.change.org/p/lambeth-council-planning-david-smith-lambeth-council-put-the-garden-bridge-where-it-s-needed?utm_source=guides&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=petition_created
Zoe
Wednesday 27 August 2014 9.41pm
I agree with Karen. I think it's a lovely idea, but it should go east of Tower Bridge, where an additional foot bridge would be great. Putting it on the South Bank is unnecessary and the buildings at either end are overblown and just an excuse for shops. I'm also not happy at them building on the grass outside the ITV building, yes it's just grass but the Southbank has so little. The suggestion they could potentially use Bernie Spain gardens for access for construction traffic also doesn't seem much picked up on, not sure if I misunderstood it.

For those at the meeting at WCDG, the designers claimed Bernie Spain isn't much used. If they consider that not much used, the bridge will have every inch covered in tourists.
Wednesday 27 August 2014 9.58pm
Totally agree Zoe. Please do sign the petition and ask others to do the same to add weight to our argument. You don't have to put your (full)name if you want to be anonymous but every signature counts - thanks :-)

http://www.change.org/p/lambeth-council-planning-david-smith-lambeth-council-put-the-garden-bridge-where-it-s-needed?utm_source=guides&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=petition_created
Thursday 28 August 2014 8.46am
qwerty wrote:
Better places for a garden bridge: e.g. regeneration in Vauxhall-Pimlico, Bermondsey-Wapping, Greenwich-Canary Wharf or bridging Battersea to Kensington

All better places for a bridge and I think a cycle bridge to Canary Wharf would be an asset to many. However I think that the height of the bridge is the limiting factor for these proposals. The Queen Elizabeth II Bridge is raised quite high allowing for taller ships to pass through - a bridge at such a height between Greenwich and Canary Wharf would be out of place, and a raising mechanism like Tower Bridge or a lock would be prohibitively expensive. The only place I can see a "sky cycle bridge" working is from North Greenwich with a long, shallow ramp leading down onto Millennium Way, but I think the length of ramp and disruption to the surroundings would be prohibitive as well.
Thursday 28 August 2014 10.52am
DavidS wrote:
qwerty wrote:
Better places for a garden bridge: e.g. regeneration in Vauxhall-Pimlico, Bermondsey-Wapping, Greenwich-Canary Wharf or bridging Battersea to Kensington

All better places for a bridge and I think a cycle bridge to Canary Wharf would be an asset to many. However I think that the height of the bridge is the limiting factor for these proposals. The Queen Elizabeth II Bridge is raised quite high allowing for taller ships to pass through - a bridge at such a height between Greenwich and Canary Wharf would be out of place, and a raising mechanism like Tower Bridge or a lock would be prohibitively expensive. The only place I can see a "sky cycle bridge" working is from North Greenwich with a long, shallow ramp leading down onto Millennium Way, but I think the length of ramp and disruption to the surroundings would be prohibitive as well.

Agreed, DavidS. The necessary clearance height for shipping would make a pedestrian or cycle bridge impracticable anywhere east of London Bridge. And even if it could be built, I for one wouldn't be happy to cycle that far above the ground!
TTT
Thursday 28 August 2014 11.00am
Thebunhouse wrote:
I guess you failed the Knowledge, TTT, and have lost your A to Z and don't take part at Orienteering.
Please explain, for this SE1'er, how you get from Temple Gardens to Bloomsbury. How would get to Kings Cross from the OXO Tower? How would you get from Kings College Stamford Street to Russel Square?

As most commuters coming from south London and working north of the river arrive at Waterloo, Blackfriars or London Bridge and Canon Street main line stations or Waterloo, Southwark and London Bridge tube stations, or bus routes on Blackfriars Road and Waterloo Road, Southwark Bridge Road and Borough High Street perhaps you can tell me how a bridge at Gabriels Wharf helps them.
A bridge every 10 meter(sic) works for Paris. Really?

Thebunhouse, to Bloomsbury, I would cross the bridge, walk up Middle Temple Lane, through Bell Yard and New Square, up Red Lion Street, and I'd be right there.
Mind you, I wouldn't try that in a stinky black cab.

It happens that I live right between Blackfriar's and Waterloo Bridge, so I don't arrive at any station at all.
Thursday 28 August 2014 11.54am
TTT: Do two of this Ts stand for TomTom? ;-)

Anyway, good points well made by everyone; I'm sure a far more creative mind than mine will come up with a solution for bridging the gap between Greenwich and Canary Wharf eg. a Brunel type tunnel? Imagine that, and underground green space! And check out what Hetherwick has done at the Paddington Basin with his rolling bridge...

But back in the real world, the bottom line is that there are far more places that are in need of something like this bridge and if it's green space that's at the heart here, then there are loads of derelict spaces that could be transformed into La Lumley's utopia.

In the meantime, I'd really appreciate it if you could sign the petition to get us closer to talking to Lambeth Council about working with us and not to have this dumped on us without proper consultation: SIGN HERE PLEASE!!! Thank you!

http://www.change.org/p/lambeth-council-planning-david-smith-lambeth-council-put-the-garden-bridge-where-it-s-needed?utm_source=guides&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=petition_created
Saturday 30 August 2014 8.14pm
From this excellent article:

http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2014/jun/24/garden-bridge-london-thomas-heatherwick-joanna-lumley

"what's happened to the long-awaited plan for a pedestrian bridge at Nine Elms, where 20,000 new homes are being built? De Carni [Tfl director of policy/strategy] says TfL is "scoping options" for both of these projects, but he is reluctant to be drawn on why the Garden bridge just 300 metres from an existing crossing has been so magically fast-tracked and received such substantial public funding. Or why a well-worked through scheme to make Victoria Embankment a pedestrian-friendly experience has simply fallen by the wayside.When it is built, these minor points of reason and reality will be long-forgotten, trampled beneath the crowds of enraptured tourists. And flock to it they must, for there is something uniquely English about the fact that a delightfully superfluous piece of public infrastructure can appear at the whim of a celebrity and the impulse of an icon-hungry mayor. We are, after all, a fine nation of folly-builders."
Sunday 31 August 2014 8.36am
We are, after all, a fine nation of folly-builders




I strongly suspect because politicians cant stand in front of a refurbishment and get a photo opportunity with a refurb project - See HS2 vs refurbing the great central railway.
Sunday 31 August 2014 9.37am
I think it would be better if a reproduction of the old London Bridge with its houses, taverns and shops was built, just imagine what the cost of a flat on it would be, we would be able to recoup the entire cost of building from some idiot who would enjoy spoiling the views east and west.
As a bonus we could put spikes around the circumference and stick spitting image type heads of politicians on the spikes for the good citizens of London to vent their spleen.
Nominations required for the first politician to be spiked and the reason.
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