Ivanhoe wrote:It's part of the same problem. The motorcyclists who ride across the pavement outside the Roebuck are presumably the same ones who will, if the gate is removed, ride at high speed (ignoring the 20 mph limit) straight along Trinity Street. And that will certainly cause actual danger to pedestrians and cyclists on Trinity Street - and rather more than 'a slight noise problem'.Ridiculous to have cameras there.
The space outside The Roebuck has a frequent problem with motorbikes using the shared cycle/pedestrian space. This causes actual danger to pedestrians, rather than the slight noise problem to (?two/three?) residents who live by The Trinity street gates.
If there are cameras going spare, I know where I'd put them...
Ivanhoe wrote:Some Trinity residents are worried that 'opening' the gate will lead to a revival of the old rat-run linking Great Dover Street to the Great Suffolk Street junction that made Trinity Street such a dangerous road to cross (and that's why I said it would be dangerous for pedestrians).Not really.
Half the m/cs who cross by The Roebuck go down/come from Falmouth Rd.
And any who wiggle through the Trinity st gates (I don't actually see any, but let's assume some do, for the sake of your argument), have to slow down to a standstill to do so. They then go down T St gates at the same pace as the cars that go down Trinity St.
As for pedestrian risk on T St, I'm sorry but your point is illogical; m/cs crossing by The Roebuck are riding on pedestrian space - on the pavement, where ped's don't expect them. M/cs riding on the road down T St pose the same risk as cars - and I don't hear any of the T St campaigners suggesting that it's made a car- free zone (wonder why?)
I often ride my m/c down T St from Gt Suffolk St direction to Falmouth Rd, and I know that it's quicker and more convenient (not to mention it being legal) to take the Cole St route than to try and wiggle through the gates.
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