Terry99 wrote:It's an silly exaggeration to say that hit and runs are "routine". (It is correct though that, statistically, motor vehicles present more of a risk to pedestrians on the footpath than cycles do.)
Hit and runs by drivers are routine and they kill far more pedestrians on the pavement than bike riders do. It would be nice if the police would take a little trouble over those incidents.
Terry99 wrote:The root cause of this accident was simply the reckless behaviour of the idiot on the bike. And it's obviously untrue to say that "almost all bikes" have been forced off the road.The root causes of this accident were the failure of the relevant authorities to provide safe cycle tracks, and the failure of the police to do anything effective about incompetent drivers who have forced almost all bikes off the road.
Terry99 wrote:Not when the pedestrian involved is on the footpath, Terry!By the way, investigations have shown that most pedestrian/cyclist incidents turn out to have been the pedestrian's fault.
Terry99 wrote:Andie Mac wrote:Thanks Jan, that's a great idea, thank you for doing that on Facebook. Also, I've now put it on Twitter as well as contacted Simon Hughes MP and the Southwark News. I'm hoping the police will release the CCTV footage of the cyclist. If they have it, it's no good keeping it to themselves.
Thanks to everyone for their kind words. I've heard so many stories of near misses between pedestrians and cyclists now, it's scary. I know that cyclists face a huge amount of danger on the roads too, and I'd never cycle in London because, personally, I think it's too dangerous, but cyclists taking to the pavement isn't the answer either.
Hit and runs by drivers are routine and they kill far more pedestrians on the pavement than bike riders do. It would be nice if the police would take a little trouble over those incidents.
The root causes of this accident were the failure of the relevant authorities to provide safe cycle tracks, and the failure of the police to do anything effective about incompetent drivers who have forced almost all bikes off the road.
By the way, investigations have shown that most pedestrian/cyclist incidents turn out to have been the pedestrian's fault.
eDWaRD WooDWaRD wrote:some members of the cycling community would garner a lot more acceptance and goodwill if they actively helped finding this guy.
eDWaRD WooDWaRD wrote:Well, whatever the statistics, this cyclist is one big coward, his refusal to take responsibility for his part in this awful accident is totally despicable and rather than damage limitation, some members of the cycling community would garner a lot more acceptance and goodwill if they actively helped finding this guy. I can't speak for AndieMac, but in my experience, a culprit getting away with something like this in such a cowardly fashion is adding insult to injury. Hit and run must be the vilest of all traffic offences, next to drink driving.
se1-steve wrote:eDWaRD WooDWaRD wrote:Well, whatever the statistics, this cyclist is one big coward, his refusal to take responsibility for his part in this awful accident is totally despicable and rather than damage limitation, some members of the cycling community would garner a lot more acceptance and goodwill if they actively helped finding this guy. I can't speak for AndieMac, but in my experience, a culprit getting away with something like this in such a cowardly fashion is adding insult to injury. Hit and run must be the vilest of all traffic offences, next to drink driving.
I am a cyclist.
I cycle in SE1.
The cyclist that did this has nothing to do with me.
It is not my responsibility to "go and find him"
His actions should not have any bearing of your opinion of me as an individual cyclist.
I hope he gets caught.
eDWaRD WooDWaRD wrote:I agree. I don't judge all cyclists by this weasel nor did I say cyclists should go and find the guy, I literally said "that rather than damage limitation, some members of the cycling community would garner a lot more acceptance and goodwill if they actively helped finding this guy". I addressed SOME cyclists. I am sorry if this wasn't clear.
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