Neil Coyle abstains from vote on Welfare Bill

Oh indeed, I saw his weasel words once the creepy former 'advisers' of our millionaire former Prime Minister started to berate MPs for daring to act individually.

It doesn't reflect well on Mr Coyle, but he can only be thanked for nominating Mr Corbyn in the first place.

I've tried to listen to the other candidates but they all blend into one after a while, especially on the page. Apparently Liz Kendall wants to take Labour 'back to its roots'. I'm not sure she has the same party of Keir Hardie or Clem Atlee in mind when she parrots the Tory mantra of not getting in the way of their corporate masters and offering up whatever policies she thinks will get the party elected. I'd be rather sad if my own MP could vote for somebody so without shame.

Corbyn seems like a really decent bloke. It is to the Labour Party's detriment that its MPs and others seem to want to demonise and discredit him. Typical Labour.

Gavin Smith wrote:

Corbyn seems like a really decent bloke. It is to the Labour Party's detriment that its MPs and others seem to want to demonise and discredit him. Typical Labour.

Typical modern politics I'd say. It's not restricted to politicians either, the electorate indulges just as as much.

If austerity means cutting back on groundbreaking innovations such as this, I sincerely hope that whoever becomes leader will oppose it and stay true to those values:



It was set up in 1948 at a time when Britain's economy was crippled by the recent war and rationing was still in place, yet this didn't stop the NHS from becoming a reality.

Why should we cut back on it now that our economy is in a much better place?

i wish people would stop attacking senior labour politicians

eDWaRD WooDWaRD wrote:

Gavin Smith wrote:

Corbyn seems like a really decent bloke. It is to the Labour Party's detriment that its MPs and others seem to want to demonise and discredit him. Typical Labour.

Typical modern politics I'd say. It's not restricted to politicians either, the electorate indulges just as as much.

PS - not restricted to Labour either, I wanted to add.

eDWaRD WooDWaRD wrote:

eDWaRD WooDWaRD wrote:

Gavin Smith wrote:

Corbyn seems like a really decent bloke. It is to the Labour Party's detriment that its MPs and others seem to want to demonise and discredit him. Typical Labour.

Typical modern politics I'd say. It's not restricted to politicians either, the electorate indulges just as as much.

PS - not restricted to Labour either, I wanted to add.

Absolutely: no major party can honestly say that they are above making use of the dark arts...

The cock-up in the leadership election should be aborted at once. There is no real need to have it done and dusted by the annual conference, the NEC can run the party until they come up with a much more considered way of selecting a leader, after all they have at least four years before the next General Election.
To delay would allow Labour to concentrate on the true horror of Tory proposals especially welfare cuts and the behaviour of high Tories like Ian Duncan Smith punching the air with great satisfaction and shouting "Fantastic" in the Commons when the cuts were announced in the Budget.
Get the leadership fiasco off the front pages and the really nasty party on them. Show the public how truly nasty the Tories are as shown by IDS behaviour

Thebunhouse wrote:

The cock-up in the leadership election should be aborted at once. There is no real need to have it done and dusted by the annual conference

Unfortunately there is an urgent need for the leadership contest to be resolved ASAP: it is imperative that a strong parliamentary opposition to the Tory government be up and fighting as soon as possible.

This means Labour, the Lib Dems and SNP need to chill the f*** out on their old petty differences and find a common ground to strategize a coordinated opposition plan that may even persuade some left leaning Tories to vote against their own party whip.

For Labour to be able to do this, it MUST select a leader that is inspiring to the voters and trusted by their opposition partners.

Labour needs an inspirational new face, with some inspirational new concepts.

"Labour needs an inspirational new face, with some inspirational new concepts"

Lord Sewer/L seems to have set things back a bit for Labour???

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/11764182/Lord-Sewel-could-be-first-peer-expelled-under-new-rules-after-snorting-cocaine-with-prostitutes.html