John C wrote:Jules62 wrote:MarcoC wrote:... assuming gentrification is a bad thing ...
Gentrification is not a bad thing per se: influxes of people from an under-represented demographics is good, since it adds to the richness and diversity of an area.
This cuts both ways: be it highly educated wealthy professionals moving into Peckham, or working class people, immigrants, etc moving into Belgravia.
But if it involves uprooting and displacing existing communities in order to achieve a new socio-economic identity for an area, then it is indeed a bad thing.
Surely what's going on in north Southwark now isn't 'gentrification'? As originally applied to areas like Islington it meant 'middle-class' incomers taking over run-down 19th-century terrace houses and tarting them up - and creating a new community. Local estate agents profited and encouraged it, but there was, as far as I know, no deliberate town-planner or developer involvement fuelled by massive investment - it was largely a 'natural' social process, matched as the up-and-coming working classes were moving out of the overcrowded central areas into the leafy suburbs!
Whether it's a 'good thing' or a 'bad thing' I don't know (and wouldn't care to express an opinion), but 'gentrification' in Southwark has given us places like Mercato Metropolitano, Flat-Iron Square, the Southwark Playhouse and (dare one suggest) topics on this Forum like where to get the best sushi in S London.
Turning north Southwark into Dubai-on-Thames isn't gentrification - and the people moving in certainly aren't gentry.
eDWaRD WooDWaRD wrote:(my emphasis)I think gentrification, no matter how you define it, set a process in motion that now includes new student accommodation, unaffordable housing, hotels, inundation of Sainsbury's and Tesco's aimed mainly at workers etc. I welcome some of the aspects, but I would prefer some balance.
Karen I wrote:Jules62: Because 'the natives' of Peckham are all poor and thick? So offensive.
JazzyQ wrote:Regeneration seems to mean getting shafted for working class people.
"Not for us" is the comment on the properties soaring up in the Southwark area.
So we need to be building homes that are for us then?
Rambling Phil wrote:What we've got is a major transformation of the neighbourhood from a pleasant, mixed economy with a fairly stable community to a tourist and services-industry based commercial neighbourhood with a transient residential population and huge numbers of day visitors and people passing through. Local shops and other services are being transformed to service these people rather than people who are here for the long-term.
In this, it more closely resembles how Soho changed in the late 20th century than Islington. It's a transformation of sorts, but I don't think it's gentrification.
boroughonian wrote:Makes me laugh, there was a major transformation that paved the way for half of you lot to live here. It's a monster that aint stropping.
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