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Sunday 28 October 2018 3.40pm
Philipdiogenes wrote:
Kate has always been up front about her views on the EU and has some interesting arguments why they are as they are. She is also a very good constituency MP. I would love to see her standing as an independent if Momentum get rid of her. She would walk it.

If she’d “walk it” as an independent, she’d stand as an independent. She’s just another career politician, jumping on the bandwagon she reckons offers her the best opportunity with easily lead voters.
Sunday 28 October 2018 5.23pm
Edward,
With your hand on the political pulse of the common man and your political acumen who would you recommend Momentum replace her with as PPC?
Sunday 28 October 2018 6.16pm
Thebunhouse wrote:
Edward,
With your hand on the political pulse of the common man and your political acumen who would you recommend Momentum replace her with as PPC?

Are you one of those militant anti-Momentum conspiracy theory activists? Also, personally, I am currently more Lib Dem than Labour.
Sunday 28 October 2018 6.33pm
eDWaRD WooDWaRD wrote:
Philipdiogenes wrote:
Kate has always been up front about her views on the EU and has some interesting arguments why they are as they are. She is also a very good constituency MP. I would love to see her standing as an independent if Momentum get rid of her. She would walk it.

If she’d “walk it” as an independent, she’d stand as an independent. She’s just another career politician, jumping on the bandwagon she reckons offers her the best opportunity with easily lead voters.

A staunch brexiter representing a London constituency? Yea she's given herself an easy ride there.....
Sunday 28 October 2018 7.56pm
boroughonian wrote:
eDWaRD WooDWaRD wrote:
Philipdiogenes wrote:
Kate has always been up front about her views on the EU and has some interesting arguments why they are as they are. She is also a very good constituency MP. I would love to see her standing as an independent if Momentum get rid of her. She would walk it.

If she’d “walk it” as an independent, she’d stand as an independent. She’s just another career politician, jumping on the bandwagon she reckons offers her the best opportunity with easily lead voters.

A staunch brexiter representing a London constituency? Yea she's given herself an easy ride there.....

Erm, I said she jumped on a bandwagon, not that she's given herself an easy ride. Being a Brexiter is one thing, aligning yourself with the arch career politician Farage is another. Corbyn is a Brexiter as well.
Sunday 28 October 2018 10.44pm
Paramount wrote:
Remember Remember not just the 5th of November that GB has only been in the club for 40 years not 1000s of years of glorious British independent sovreign history and quality culture. Dare to be a Daniel as Benn would say or Keep righg on to the end of the road Jack Jones excTUC leader n Pensioners champion

You say 1000s of years, yet during the course of the last 2000 of these, England and Wales were ruled by Romans for almost 400 years, and the Norman invasion gave it Norman Kings: hardly what I would call "sovereign history"...
Monday 29 October 2018 10.10am
Anyway, sovereignty is not lost when're with the EU, it's temporarily pooled for the betterment of our country and all the whole of the EU. Parliamentary primacy is not threatened, it cannot be threatened, as it's the very core of our unwritten constitution. We have temporarily ceded some law-making powers in thousands of mutually agreed international treaties which will still be in force after Brexit. Some people in this country, leavers predominantly, are behaving as King Cnut (would have cautioned against)
Friday 2 November 2018 2.31pm
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Saturday 3 November 2018 11.26am
faraday wrote:
lucysalisbury wrote:
Anyway, sovereignty is not lost when're with the EU

Except that UK Gov cannot ...support a steel plant through troubled times,
Thankfully most people understand the concept of sovereignty.

faraday

Ermm...
Monday 5 November 2018 9.41am
faraday wrote:
lucysalisbury wrote:
Anyway, sovereignty is not lost when're with the EU

Except that UK Gov cannot remove or reduce VAT, cannot support a steel plant through troubled times, cannot build the houses we need where they're needed and cannot deport all the individuals who shouldn't be in this country.

Thankfully most people understand the concept of sovereignty.

faraday

The UK government can reduce VAT but chooses not to. The idea of the UK government removing VAT altogether is fantasy. As pointed out, the UK government is able to support steel plants. Building or not building houses has zero to do with the EU.

Likewise, if an individual is not allowed to be in this country, of course the UK government can deport them. Leaving the EU won't make the slightest bit of difference to that.

Your understanding of sovereignty is a) factually inaccurate and b) rooted in the 19th century. Do you suppose we will regain "sovereignty" in striking trade deals with all these other countries no doubt falling over themselves to buy our exports? No country is truly "sovereign" in this day and age.
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